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    What to keep in stock

    Using the TFP way, what chemicals do you recommend keeping in stock? And his much of each? I have a 20,000 gal pool in Texas.

    In the past (Pool Store way) I always kept tabs, Algecide, and shock (burnout 73) on hand. Sometime a BioGuard balance pack.

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    Re: What to keep in stock

    Hammer,

    The only thing that I think makes sense to "keep in stock" would be liquid Chlorine/bleach and Muriatic Acid. I have a SWG so don't normally keep much bleach, but in the winter I buy three or four jugs and a box with two jugs of MA.

    If I find I need anything else, I just get it as I need it.

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    Re: What to keep in stock

    I always have at least 3 gallons of Clorox on hand and a minimum half gallon of Muratic acid. Also always have the lesser used baking soda in stock. I have a tub full of pucks if anyone wants them.
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    I only keep about 4 gallons of bleach on hand. Nothing else. My pH stays pretty consistent so haven't had to worry about anything else.
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    Re: What to keep in stock

    Is this for your home pool or the pools you service?

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    My pool only.
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    Re: What to keep in stock

    I have a 50lb bucket of pucks I just bought before I learned what they do to CYA. If anyone is interested. Right now I have about 8 gallons of chlorine and MA on hand which is a lot different than when I was getting pool stored 2 weeks ago.
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    Re: What to keep in stock

    Quote Originally Posted by jarradodle View Post
    I have a 50lb bucket of pucks I just bought before I learned what they do to CYA. If anyone is interested. Right now I have about 8 gallons of chlorine and MA on hand which is a lot different than when I was getting pool stored 2 weeks ago.
    I was ahead of you in the puck line.
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    No swg. I keep between 1-3 cases of 12.5% on hand during the heat of summer. I go as high as 3 when the date code shows it is less than a week old. Otherwise, I carry less. I have 3/4G of MA, but I haven't touched it in 2+years as my TA is perfect for my pool and I have borates. I also have dichlor granules that I use if I ever need to adjust my CYA.

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    Re: What to keep in stock

    Quote Originally Posted by MarianParoo View Post
    Is this for your home pool or the pools you service?
    For my pool. I haven't decided if I want to use the TFP method for pools I service. I've got to get my pool running smoothly first before I venture to use TFP on some else's.



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    Re: What to keep in stock

    It really depends on the pool, local conditions, etc. Some people go through gallons of acid per week, others like myself probably have not used a gallon of acid in the last 5 years. (the truth is I have mostly switched back to dry acid because the muriatic acid bottles get brittle and fall apart after a couple of years).


    As to what I personally keep on hand,: (keep in mind I have an indoor pool)

    A few gallons of bleach (I have a metering pump connected to a 15 gallon drum which I refill) typical bleach use is about 1 quart per day

    about 10-15 pounds of MPS (only used after big pool parties for supplemental oxidation)

    a container or two of pH up and pH down from Lowes again my pH is very stable and rarely need adjustment and while I could use the grocery store options (borax, washing soda, etc.) I like the moisture proof screw top containers even if they do cost a little more.

    I also keep some chlor out chlorine remover on hand, being an indoor pool it takes forever for FC to drop if something happens and I need to boost up to SLAM level, or remove chlorine to do an ascorbic acid stain treatment.

    I also tend to keep about 10 pounds of granular CYA stalibizer on hand to tweak CYA when needed plus I have a tub of trichlor pucks, still 75% full and 6 years old, and a couple of cases of 1 pound bags of dichlor that I acquired for free a couple of years ago. This is all a bit redundant for various FC/CYA tweaks, but gives me flexibility.

    It may sound like a lot to have on hand, but the nearest store that has year round pool supplies is 30 miles away (Lowe's) and sometimes they are out of this or that, and the second closest is 50 miles away in a different direction.

    Ike

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    Re: What to keep in stock

    Isaac-1, tell me more about this metering pump. Does it control chlorine added to the pool (like a little at a time to maintain a level)? I'd like to know more about it, how it works, how durable it is if it is handling chlorine, how much it costs, where to get one, etc.



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    Re: What to keep in stock

    I am using an LMI metering pump, it is a diaphragm pump that injects a tiny amount of liquid chlorine with each stroke, (stroke length and frequency are both adjustable). Timing is adjustable between about 1 stroke every 2 minutes, then halvings of that up to several strokes per second. Max flow on mine is rated at .58 gallons per hour. As to maintenance I find I must replace the rubber (or rubber like) components including the diaphragm about once per year (I use 8.25% bleach, ware might be faster with 12%), there is a pump rebuild kit available with new rubber parts, new balls and springs for the inline check valves, etc. Kit cost is about $60 I bought my LMI pump cheap off ebay (new old stock shelf worn open box) for $100 or so. Model was in the P141 series (I think, may be A141) which retails for around $400 depending on the exact sub model online.

    There are several people on here doing basicly the same thing but using a peristaltic pump which likely have a lower overall cost, and lower cost of operation, however I think he tubes in them may need to be changed more often. Also many peristaltic pumps require an external timer so while the pumps themselves are about half the price of metering pumps, you must add the cost of a timer.

    Here is a random article online comparing the 2 types of pumps http://www.waterworld.com/articles/i...ing-pump-.html I have no idea which side it comes down on, but at quick glance seems to cover the differences.

    Ike

    p.s. I find that I only have issue with outgasing if I use a short stroke length, so it is better to set a long stroke a fewer clicks per minute than a short stroke and more clicks per minute I also suspect but don't know that peristaltic pumps may be quieter. My LMI pump is probably about as loud as someone dropping a small coin on a wood floor from waist height each time it fires off a stroke.
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    Re: What to keep in stock

    Quote Originally Posted by HammerGeek View Post
    Using the TFP way, what chemicals do you recommend keeping in stock?
    Down here in Houston, we've been known to get quite some torrential rain events over the last few years. In addition to acid, I keep a few bags of salt, a container of calcium, and a container of CYA on-hand to handle any dilution deluges.
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    Re: What to keep in stock

    Thanks Ike.

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    SWG, so just acid and some CYA for rain dilution.
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