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    New build in DFW

    Hi Everyone. We finally received three bids and unsure about the equipment and steel/gunite structure as this is our first pool build. I was wondering if everyone could please take a look and provide your recommendation? One builder has all these fancy A&A parts to improve circulation and energy saving and sounds really great. We are just unsure if that is worth it for the premium.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated!



    Builder 1.
    Size - 34 x 17, 102 perimeter
    Steel - 1/2" on 12" x 6" reinforcement centers 1/2" 4-bar box beam
    Gunite - 12" x 12" beam, 6" walls, 6" floors, 8" coves
    Hayward VS HP Tristar Pump
    Hayward 525 Cartridge filter
    5 returns, 2 skimmers, dual drains
    Lueders Coping, Travertine Deck
    Wet Edge Satin Matrix level 1
    1 Colorlogic
    Hayward On Command Base (no actuators)
    Inline Chlorinator
    $56,500

    Builder 2
    Size 35 x 17.5, 105 perimeter
    Steel - 1/2" set on 10 centers with 5x10 stress & coves
    Gunite 1/2 4 bars 12 x 12 continuous beam, 6-8 6 sack mix
    Jandy 2HP E-pump with controller
    Jandy 460 Cartridge filter
    5 returns, 2 skimmers, 2 drains
    Lueders Coping, Travertine Deck
    Wet Edge Satin Matrix level 1
    1 Jandy Watercolor LED
    Iaqualink smart phone controller
    Inline Chlorinator
    $56,162

    Builder 3
    Size 33 x 17, 101 perimeter
    Soil Injection (refuse to build pool without)
    Steel - 1/2" set on 10 centers, box beam 4 continuous 1/2
    Gunite 1/2 4 bars 12 x 16 continuous beam, 6 sack mix
    Jandy VSPlusHP
    Jandy 460 Cartridge filter
    A&A quikfresh circulation plus
    A&A Channel Drain
    A&A LeafVac
    2 A&A Quikskim venturi skimmer
    Lueders Coping, Travertine Deck
    Pebble Sheen
    2 Jandy Watercolor LED 30watts
    Jandy PDA-P4
    Rainbow Inline Chlorinator
    $61,500

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    Re: New build in DFW

    My quick comments:

    The channel drain from PB 3 is a nice thing to get. They look nicer than round drains and are more efficient at capturing debris that is swept towards them. Should be very little premium thought - hundreds maybe. The other circulation stuff is not a big deal. A properly designed pool will circulate water well.

    One Hayward Colorlogic or Jandy Watercolors LED on a pool that size is insufficient. Don't let them talk you into getting just one. It will be too dim and there is no easy fix. Ante up and pay $500-750 for a second light.

    How do you plan to chlorinate? Bleach, SWCG? HIGHLY recommend a SWCG.

    Automation - How much do you want?
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    Re: New build in DFW

    Quote Originally Posted by bmoreswim View Post
    My quick comments:

    The channel drain from PB 3 is a nice thing to get. They look nicer than round drains and are more efficient at capturing debris that is swept towards them. Should be very little premium thought - hundreds maybe. The other circulation stuff is not a big deal. A properly designed pool will circulate water well.

    One Hayward Colorlogic or Jandy Watercolors LED on a pool that size is insufficient. Don't let them talk you into getting just one. It will be too dim and there is no easy fix. Ante up and pay $500-750 for a second light.

    How do you plan to chlorinate? Bleach, SWCG? HIGHLY recommend a SWCG.

    Automation - How much do you want?
    Thanks for the comments. I didn't think all those parts would be $5000 more but the builder is very reputable here in the area so we are still unsure. Builder 3 has no bench in the bid and the deck is much smaller compare to the other two builders, 333 sq ft vs 450 sq ft.

    I was going to upgrade the lights, maybe 3 or 4 nicheless led. We will be using bleach or SWCG, still undecided at the moment since we do have a lot of stones for coping and deck and don't want to seal every year.

    The equipment pad will be behind our A/C units and there is no gate from our house directly there, we have to go outside and walk around the house to the equipment pad so we are looking for a remote or using our cell phone. There is no spa so we don't really need much automation.

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    Re: New build in DFW

    Agree on getting more than one light.

    Pass on the inline chlorinator (retail is less than $100) and get a SWG. It will cost more but well worth it.

    Be sure to get a suction line installed. Even if you get a robot for a vacuum (most will recommend that), the suction line is handle to manually be able to clean the pool.
    Matt
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    Re: New build in DFW

    Specs are very similar to my build and in the same town. I'm on decking stage. it's been postponed for a week now because of the rain. Likely bid with the same builders. Happy to share my experience so far about pool builders in private message you would like.

    My build is here
    InGround; gunite; 21x38 17,021 gallons; Jandy E-Pump 2.0HP; Jandy 80GPM booster pump; Jandy 460 sq. ft. cartridge filter; Aqualink w/ PDA; Chlorine feeder; UV sanitizer; Polaris 3900 w/ pump; 2-Jandy LED lights; 2-deck jets; 2-18" sheer descents; 1-24" sheer descent
    deck=560 sq. ft. 2-color rock texture.

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    Re: New build in DFW

    #3, is Claffey right?
    12K Gallon, IG PebbleSheen Blue Granite, built AUG 2016, 4 Jandy nicheless LED lights , Jandy 2.0HP VS ePump, Jandy AquaPure PLC700 SWG, PB4-60 Booster pump, Polaris 280, Jandy CV580 VersaPlumb Cartridge Filter , Jandy - Pro Series RS4 W/iAquaLink, Jandy JXi400NK 400K Heater, OK Flagstone Coping, Travertine Decking, 7 x7 Spa, Tanning Shelf, 10' Grotto, TF-100.

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    Re: New build in DFW

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs418 View Post
    #3, is Claffey right?
    Good guess.

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    Re: New build in DFW

    Thanks Matt. Can you explain the suction line, how do we manually clean the pool?

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