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    Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Good Morning folks!!

    I love this sight good to see folks helping each other out!

    Totally new to this pool stuff so here goes.

    15' AG Intex pool vinyl liner cartridge filter (several cartridge changes already) in 2 weeks


    Just got my TFP test kit, so i cant promise how accurate readings are!

    water seems always cloudy, have added clarifier 3 times hence the cartridge changes

    FC 0
    PH 7.5
    TA 200
    CH 200
    CYA 20
    borate 1


    82 degrees F


    I have added 12.5% chlorine once but doesnt seem to raise levels,
    Water level is currently low as i need to readjust a couple of the support poles
    i need to find a source for some of needed chemicals, all i have is a "start up kit" from Bison labs private labeled "aqua clear"

    As a total "babe in the woods" here any help would be greatly appreciated!!

    Thanks

    Dave

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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Hi Dave - Your source for needed chemicals is your nearest grocery store. You are missing one important test. Combined Chlorine. Done with results from FC test. Chemicals all can be purchased from big box stores bleach, store brand, Borax (not washing soda) and baking soda. Stabilizer for CYA in pool dept of same store.

    You need to create a signature for your pool with info that will appear each time you post.

    So far, without CC test, pH good range, CYA little low, YOU NEED BLEACH AND SEVERAL BOTTLES OF IT> See CYA/Chlorine chart to figure your FC number. DO NOT open AQUA Clear. Put on shelf and ignore.

    Please post CC results ASAP so we can see if anything growing you need to erradicate
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    ^^ I agree. Ignore pool store products and clarifiers. Regular bleach is your pool's best friend right now. We need to see your CC level, but I suspect the cloudiness is an algae bloom in it's infant stage. So that, along with the sun, will eat-up chlorine very fast which is probably why you can never seem to keep it in there. Definitely increase the CYA to 30 and upon review of your CC reading, be prepared to perform a "SLAM" (link below) with an FC of "12" until you pass all 3 SLAM criteria. The SLAM page outlines everything for you. Before starting a SLAM, remember to lower pH to 7.2 before increasing the FC to 12. Welcome to TFP! Great to have you with us!

    To increase CYA via granular stabilizer, place the required amount as calculated by the Poolmath calculator into a white sock and place in the poolside skimmer basket. For those concerned about suction flow to the pump, suspending the sock near a return jet or from a floating device will also suffice. Best never to allow undissolved granules to rest directly against the pool surface. Squeeze the sock periodically to help it dissipate. Once dissolved, consider your CYA adjusted to that programmed (target) level. CYA test readings should show a rise in 24-48 hours, however some pools may experience a longer delay to fully register. Best to confirm final CYA in about 5-7 days before adding any more stabilizer/conditioner.
    Proper lighting is critical for the CYA test, so you want to test for CYA outside on a bright sunny day. Taylor recommends standing outside with your back to the sun and the view tube in the shade of your body. Use the mixing bottle to combine/gently mix the required amounts of pool water and R-0013 reagent, let sit for 30 seconds, then gently mix again. Then, while holding the skinny tube with the black dot at waist level, begin squirting the mixed solution into the skinny tube. Watch the black dot until it completely disappears. Once it disappears, record the CYA reading. After the first test, you can pour the mixed solution from the skinny view tube back to the mixing bottle, shake, and do the same test a second, third, or fourth time to instill consistency in your technique, become more comfortable with the testing, and validate the CYA reading.
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Hi Dave,
    As others mentioned, you need to do the CC test.

    your CYA is too low. Raise it to at least 30.
    Your FC level depends on what the CYA is. Here is the chart to go by.
    Pool School - Chlorine / CYA Chart

    And here are the other recommended levels. Its all easy stuff. Use Pool Math to determine how much of something to add.
    Pool School - Recommended Levels
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/calc.html
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    OK clearly im missing something here, i have gone back and forth thru pool scholl and not finding how to calculate CC???
    And is stablizer just called that in pool stores? available elsewhere??
    BTW your right i have turned green since i fixed support posts and filled so no doubt algae
    im guessing a good shock in in order??

    Thanks
    Dave
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Pool School - FAS-DPD Chlorine Test

    Steps 6&7.

    You can get stabilizer (CYA) at WalMart, Lowes, Home Depot and pool stores.

    You should SLAM. Pool School - SLAM - Shock Level And Maintain
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    DO NOT GO NEAR POOL STORE FOR SUPPLIES - they will sell you other stuff you don't need.

    For your SLAM you will have to lower your pH with Muratic Acid, raise your CYA to 30 with stabilizer and add bleach according to Chlorine/CYA charts. Might as well pick up a dozen bottles you will need them sooner or later. All these chemicals can be obtained at above listed stores. Do not purchase ALGECIDE.

    If you have any questions, we are happy to answer.
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    OH then i did do CC it was zero
    Sorry should have posted that i was copying from pool math chart
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Can you do numbers for today? Also need gallons of water in pool. Since pool is green SLAM in order.

    If you have any questions, we are happy to answer.
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Update this morn
    pool is back to cloudy
    4,440 gals
    of which i probably added 800 or so yesterday
    I will do readings shortly
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Finally! noone wanting to use pool for a couple days!
    I think I have all the chemicals ill need (hope so still a newbie here!)20160807_145213.jpg

    as of 1:15 PM EST


    CH .5
    BR 1
    PH 7.8
    FC 0
    CC 0
    TC O
    CHT 0
    TA 130
    CYA ???? full tube yet still see dot??


    84 F

    Be gentle w/ me please step by step if you would be so kind


    Thanks

    Dave
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Take the clear balance back... no need for it.... Grab some Clorox or HTH stabilizer.. usually a 4lb jug
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Yup, have to get that CYA up so the chlorine can be effective. Get some stabilizer and then you can start nuking.
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    At what point do i need to keep folks out of the pool??
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    - FC above SLAM level or below minimum Pool School - Chlorine / CYA Chart
    - pH below 7.0 or above 7.8
    - Water not clear enough to see the bottom (safety)
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    any problem after putting stablizer in?
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Hmmmmmmm The stabalizer bottle says to pour slowly into my skimmer, I dont have 1!!! any suggestions??
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Find an old sock and fill with 3/4 of amount pool math says to add. Hang in pool in front of return so water coming to pool will force its way into sock to dissolve powder and begin to mix with water. Occasionally squeeze sock to help process along.

    I don't think its a good idea to swim in unchlorinated water. I'd add a gallon of bleach tonite and go ahead and get cya added.
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    i dont understand changes in readings? I dont think im done slamming yet
    88 F
    CH 5+
    Br 1
    PH 7.5
    CDT 8
    FC 1
    CC 8
    TC 9
    TA 240
    CYA 42

    Am I missing something??
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    Re: Good Morning New pool owner here!!

    Do you have FC and CC reversed? What is CDT?

    It might be good to read the SLAM article a couple times, Pool School - SLAM - Shock Level And Maintain
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