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    STUPID newbie question!!

    I finally got an intermatic timer for my pool.

    When the pump is off, and the SWG says "No flow", but the actual system is still on, thats not affecting the SWG is it?
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    The SWG power should be coming from the timer as well.

    The flow switch is meant as a backup so that it is not generating when the pump is off. The "no flow" indicates that the SWG is indeed not generating by design, but what you currently have is not the recommended setup.
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    The SWG power should be coming from the timer as well.

    The flow switch is meant as a backup so that it is not generating when the pump is off. The "no flow" indicates that the SWG is indeed not generating by design, but what you currently have is not the recommended setup.
    why is it not recommended? If I leave it, what will go wrong? I can't change the set up now
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    If the SWG is on and the pump is off then it can build up gas and explode. Here is one,New Member Swade
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    Why can't you change the setup? It should be pretty straight forward.
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    Why can't you change the setup? It should be pretty straight forward.
    Because I have no idea how. I'm sure its as easy as a couple wires, but this was set up by an electrician.

    If I send you some pictures of the setup, could you walk me through it?
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
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    Ok thanks. When I get home tonight I will take some detailed pictures and post them. Thanks jbizzle. Huge help.
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
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    Hey so can you help me out. This is my set up. I want to make the SWG turn off with the pump, not run on "no flow" mode.

    Here are some pics. Sorry for the huge size.















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    Can someone help me wire my SWG to the timer! PLEASE!!! Lots of pic

    Hi,

    An electrician installed a timer for me, and hooked it up to the pump, but not the SWG. I would like the SWG to turn off when the pump turn off. Can someone help me wire it?

    Seems like it should be easy, but i am not pro. A step by step guide would be amazinggg!! Thanks in advance!

    Sorry for the huge pics!













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    Re: Can someone help me wire my SWG to the timer! PLEASE!!! Lots of pic

    You appear to be missing the connections at 3 and 4. That is where you would attach the SWG.
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    Re: Can someone help me wire my SWG to the timer! PLEASE!!! Lots of pic

    Quote Originally Posted by pabeader View Post
    You appear to be missing the connections at 3 and 4. That is where you would attach the SWG.
    Thanks

    and where do I get them from?
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    Re: Can someone help me wire my SWG to the timer! PLEASE!!! Lots of pic

    Unfortunately, it might be cheaper/easier to replace it with a new one. It is very easy to install and the hardest part is finding the proper breaker to switch off.
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    If you are not comfortable with electrical wiring, then call an electrician. But if you are a DIYer, then it's pretty easy. According to the manual, the SWG is an auto voltage detect device and can be connected to 120v or 240v.

    Here are the steps:
    - Disconnect the power to the pump timer (turn off the breaker)
    - Disconnect the power to the SWG (turn off the breaker)
    - Remove the cover on the switch for the SWG
    - Remove switch
    - Remove the wires from the switch and junction box
    - Put wire nuts on feed wires (from circuit breaker)
    if reusing the same wire:
    - Move the SWG panel closer to the timer so that the wires reach
    - Connect the wires into the pump timer. Same terminals that feed the pump supply wire. (black to black, white to white, green to green)
    If buying new wire
    - Open the SWG control box
    - Remove the wires that went to the switch
    - Connect new wires to the controller where you removed the old wires (black to black, white to white, green to green)
    - Connect the wires into the pump timer. Same terminals that feed the pump supply wire. (black to black, white to white, green to green)

    - Now double check all connectors to make sure they are monkey tight (not gorilla tight).
    - Close all the boxes
    - Turn on the breaker to the pump.

    Consult the manual for more info and for some diagrams (figure 18) http://www.jandy.com/~/media/zodiac/...h/h0331400.pdf
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Davejavu View Post
    If you are not comfortable with electrical wiring, then call an electrician. But if you are a DIYer, then it's pretty easy. According to the manual, the SWG is an auto voltage detect device and can be connected to 120v or 240v.

    Here are the steps:
    - Disconnect the power to the pump timer (turn off the breaker)
    - Disconnect the power to the SWG (turn off the breaker)
    - Remove the cover on the switch for the SWG
    - Remove switch
    - Remove the wires from the switch and junction box
    - Put wire nuts on feed wires (from circuit breaker)
    if reusing the same wire:
    - Move the SWG panel closer to the timer so that the wires reach
    - Connect the wires into the pump timer. Same terminals that feed the pump supply wire. (black to black, white to white, green to green)
    If buying new wire
    - Open the SWG control box
    - Remove the wires that went to the switch
    - Connect new wires to the controller where you removed the old wires (black to black, white to white, green to green)
    - Connect the wires into the pump timer. Same terminals that feed the pump supply wire. (black to black, white to white, green to green)

    - Now double check all connectors to make sure they are monkey tight (not gorilla tight).
    - Close all the boxes
    - Turn on the breaker to the pump.

    Consult the manual for more info and for some diagrams (figure 18) http://www.jandy.com/~/media/zodiac/...h/h0331400.pdf
    thank you!!
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Davejavu View Post
    If you are not comfortable with electrical wiring, then call an electrician. But if you are a DIYer, then it's pretty easy. According to the manual, the SWG is an auto voltage detect device and can be connected to 120v or 240v.

    Here are the steps:
    - Disconnect the power to the pump timer (turn off the breaker)
    - Disconnect the power to the SWG (turn off the breaker)
    - Remove the cover on the switch for the SWG
    - Remove switch
    - Remove the wires from the switch and junction box
    - Put wire nuts on feed wires (from circuit breaker)
    if reusing the same wire:
    - Move the SWG panel closer to the timer so that the wires reach
    - Connect the wires into the pump timer. Same terminals that feed the pump supply wire. (black to black, white to white, green to green)
    If buying new wire
    - Open the SWG control box
    - Remove the wires that went to the switch
    - Connect new wires to the controller where you removed the old wires (black to black, white to white, green to green)
    - Connect the wires into the pump timer. Same terminals that feed the pump supply wire. (black to black, white to white, green to green)

    - Now double check all connectors to make sure they are monkey tight (not gorilla tight).
    - Close all the boxes
    - Turn on the breaker to the pump.

    Consult the manual for more info and for some diagrams (figure 18) http://www.jandy.com/~/media/zodiac/...h/h0331400.pdf
    So I don't need to put it in terminal # 3 and 4 of the timer ?
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    Re: Can someone help me wire my SWG to the timer! PLEASE!!! Lots of pic

    You are not missing any connections. That is a 120V timer. It doesn't have any.

    The conduit that comes from the breaker box to the switch needs to be wired into the neutral and load side of the timer. This is assuming that the SWG is a 120V unit as well.
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    Re: STUPID newbie question!!

    You don't have a terminal 3 and 4 in your timer (that is a generic plastic cover for multiple timers)
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    Re: Can someone help me wire my SWG to the timer! PLEASE!!! Lots of pic

    You also need to run a proper bonding wire (bare copper 8AWG) from the bonding lug on the SWG control box (bottom right under side of control box) to the pools bonding system.
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    Re: Can someone help me wire my SWG to the timer! PLEASE!!! Lots of pic

    Quote Originally Posted by proavia View Post
    You also need to run a proper bonding wire (bare copper 8AWG) from the bonding lug on the SWG control box (bottom right under side of control box) to the pools bonding system.
    Thanks everyone. Appreciate it!
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