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    Rookie needs help!

    Hey ya'll. Thanks in advance for the help. I started last season with this pool an had decent luck with it. This year I opened it an looked great....for a week! Friend suggested simple blue pool manager. I tried it. Everything but chlorine was in check. Could not get chlorine to come up. Well then come the algae bloom..big time. I did not have a good test kit so I figured there was no need to post on here shooting in the dark with shady test results so I read an just started shocking an vacuuming an scrubbing. Two weeks have passed an water has cleared up. I just received the taylor k-2006 an tested water last night. Here are the results.
    Fc- 4.8
    Cc- 0.04
    Ph- 7.0
    Alk- 70
    Ch- 110
    Cya- 100
    Not looking so good. Any help on which way to go. I have lost trust in pool store. They sold me some phosphate remover telling me that's why I had algae so I'm turning to ya'll for help.
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    Phosphate remover isn't the only reason I have lost trust in chemical salesman. I was spending way to much money on what I felt was snake oil but I did not know better. It has been very stressful not knowing what to do.
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    Oh that's unfortunate about using SimpleBlue Pool Manager.... that stuff contains copper. Copper in pool water causes stains to pool surfaces and green hair on blonds.

    We rarely trust pool store tests, but in this case it might be useful to ask them to run a test for copper on your water. Actually since I see you're on well water, ask them to test for "metals" so that it includes copper and lead tests.

    Gotta know what you're dealing with...y'know?
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    I am not seeing any stains but I will ask next time I'm there. I am about an hour away from the pool store. Should I turn out some water to get cya down?
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    Yes! That would help both the CYA and any copper (assuming your well water doesn't just replace it?)

    First you need to take half tap water and half pool water (equal parts) and mix them, then use this water to re-test your CYA and double the results. Your CYA may be much higher than 100 but since the tube only goes that high we can't know unless we do the dilution test.

    Then you can use PoolMath to guide how much water you need to replace.
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    Re: Rookie needs help!

    I was afraid the cya was going to go up because when i started shocking when the algae bloom was present I was guessing at how high the free chlorine was.

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    To TFP Charlie

    We've all been there. Having someone hand us a 25-50 dollar bottle of "try this".

    We're here to help. Let us know how the CYA test went.
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    These numbers safe to swim?

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    Re: Rookie needs help!

    Diluted sample 50% pool water 50% well water. Came up with a cya test result of 50. So cya is 100 in pool correct?

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    That's correct. You'll want to consider draining half the water to get it down to a more manageable 50 if possible.

    The pool is safe to swim in when:
    1. You can see the bottom.
    2. pH is between 7.2 and 7.8
    3. Chlorine is above minimum and below SLAM level for your CYA level.

    In order to SLAM, with 100 CYA you'll need to maintain 39 FC to get rid of that algae. Minimum, which you should never go below, is 8ppm.
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    Man that sucks. The past 2 weeks working my butt off to get the algae out an now I've gotta drain half out.

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    Live and learn. This is the first pool I have ever tried to manage.

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    Re: Rookie needs help!

    Hey ya'll. Well I drained about half the water an refilled. I did add liquid chlorine last night before I had to leave for work. Just tested this morning.
    Ph- 7.8
    Fc- 6.6
    Cc- 0.4
    Ta- 160
    Cya- 40
    Lemme know what yall think.Thanks again.

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    A quick note on the FAS-DPD chlorine test - you can save a lot of reagent by using a 10ml sample and dividing the number of drops by 2. The 25ml sample is far more accuracy than we need and you'll burn through your reagents very quickly that way.

    Your TA is high, but that will down over time as you add muriatic acid to bring down the pH. So given that you were needing a SLAM, your next step will be to lower the pH to 7.2 with muriatic acid, and then raise the FC to 16, holding it there by checking it and raising it back to 16 as many times a day as you can each day, and following SLAM procedures: Pool School - SLAM - Shock Level And Maintain
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    Re: Rookie needs help!

    Hey ya'll got the pool right for awhile. Been keeping fc where the pool math said to. Last night it was a 5. This evening I have algae on the bottom. What's up. I need to test again but was wondering what's going on if I'm keeping fc where I am suppose to

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    Could we get a full test? How often have you been testing and adding?
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    I've been testing daily. Had slammed week before last. Pool cleared. Passed overnight free chlorine test. So was letting fc drift back down. Was dropping 1 whole number a day. Stopped around 5. Pool math said 3 to 7 was normal range so I thought I was good. Will get a full test to you soon.

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    I had alot of bathers in the pool and we had alot of rain so I had raised fc to shock level of 16 day before yesterday. So here is a full test this morning.

    Fc 12
    Cc .5
    Ph 7.9
    Ta 160
    Ch 50
    Ca 50

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    Bottom has what looks like algae but I can't tell if it is dead algae or live

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