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    Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Had a sparkling pool a few days ago.. Found a lot of June bugs in pool and pool was cloudy..

    Pool #'so today..
    FC 2
    Cc 1
    pH 7.2
    TA 160
    Cya 90
    Ch 325
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Unfortunately the June bugs had little to do with it, your FC is entirely to low for your CYA of 90. CYA/FC chart doesn't go to 90 for a SWG pool, but I would have FC at a minimum of 5 or 6 and target 7 or 8 with that CYA.

    Time to SLAM with the CC over 0.5, since its early hopefully it will be quick. Your slam target is 35, sorry.
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Ok, thanks much.. So Slam would be add more than 4 gallons 1 qt of bleach 8.25% to pool.. Am I understand that correctly??
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Yes, you are spot on. Would you consider a partial drain to reduce CYA to say 70? That is about a 20% (10") replacement. It would help with SLAM (a little) and would help with overall SWG later.
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Sure.. Wouldn't hurt anything.
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Sure.. I wouldn't mind replacement.. What does clorine level need to be to be safe to swim. Might start slam after holliday..
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Depending on where Kingfisher is CYA of 80 might be better going forward.

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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Your elevated CC will actually be much more irritating than high FC. CC is what is responsible for that chlorine smell and red eyes. Like pooldv said, 80 ppm CYA might be apropos if you are in a warm climate with lots of sun. Update your state/area please.

    Otherwise it is safe to swim up to Slam levels, 35 ppm FC at 90 CYA. Raising FC and removing the cover if you have one on may quickly drop CC in addition to a partial replacement.
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Oklahoma
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Feel less confident of the Cya test..
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    CYA gives that feeling the most. The nice thing is that you can test it then pour the mixture back into the mixing tube and repeat it as many times as you like. I even store mine overnight and repeat it the next day with the same mixture. My results usually start to align and raise my confidence.

    In general, hold the graduated vial with only two fingers at the top, at waist level, with sun at your back but with strong sunlight. Basically, you are trying to maximize the amount of sunning hitting the mixture without the direct sun blinding it out. As the sun hits the CYA reagent in the water, it clouds the dot. I find it easier to pour a little in, look around then glance back at the dot. Then add a little more, look around and glance back repeating until its gone. This helps rest my eyes between and keeps the dot from reappearing.
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Thanks for the tips on that.. Very cloudy now.. Drained about 4 inches out and now adding.
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Ok, definitely want CYA at 80. Pour the mixture back and forth 4 or 5 or more times and check repeatedly until you feel good about the number and then round up.
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    I feel like it is more in between 70 and 80 now, but I did take a bit of water out.
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    Added my 4(8.25%) 121 Oz bottles of bleach. When should I test again??
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    Re: Slightly cloudy, June bug..

    You can test anytime at any time. The beginning of slam the fc can drop quite fast. But definitely check before bed and add back to your slam target.

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