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    Advice please!

    I don't know how to search this question to get a straightforward answer, so please don't yell at me for starting a new thread. Last week we were on vacation, long story short, my pump burned up. Water's green, algae growing on sides and bottom. Got a new pump and it's running now. All the algae is broken up but the water is still green. I have no clue what any of my levels were or are, never tested before. The sand filter and SWG has always kept it crystal clear. Can I shock it with an SWG? Or is there something you can suggest I do? If I can shock, do I use liquid or powder? Thank you in advance.
    Central Ohio. 7,000 gallon AG with an intex 2,800 gph sand filter, SWG.

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    Re: Advice please!

    Welcome!

    First order of business, a proper test kit. We recommend the TF100, you will most likely need the XL. Link in signature.
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    Welcome.

    First things first (Answer your question): Yes, you can "shock" with a SWG, but "Shock" is not considered a product around these parts. It's a process (Shock Level And Maintain) and is done with Liquid.

    First, You need you get a DIY test kit. the TF-100 is linked in my signature. There is also a Taylor k-2006, but it has less reagent.

    Secondly, if your pool is green, it is probably not Algae free and needs to be SLAM'ed.
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    Re: Advice please!

    Anyone know where to buy a kit local to central Ohio?
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    The Internet. Not trying to be snarky. I just don't think you can piece a quality test kit for cheaper than what is linked below.
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    Very, very few stores carry a recommended testkit, and those few that do, charge an arm and a leg for it. Order a kit, add a half jug of bleach each day, and brush like crazy after adding until your kit arrives.

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    Ok, I'll order a test kit. And research the slam method. But in the mean time I'm running the pump and SWG 24/7 because I read that, but add bleach? Not liquid chlorine?
    Central Ohio. 7,000 gallon AG with an intex 2,800 gph sand filter, SWG.

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    Liquid chlorine and bleach both contain the same ingredient, sodium hypochlorite, just in different percentages. Use whichever you have.
    Last edited by MarianParoo; 06-16-2016 at 10:58 AM. Reason: Auto-correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdawes View Post
    Anyone know where to buy a kit local to central Ohio?
    You're not going to find a TF-100 in your local pool store. You MIGHT find a Taylor 2006, but trust me - you want the TF-100. I know it looks expensive, but you'll get your money back by using the TFP method. If your pool is green now, you'll probably want the XL option. It gives you more reagent for when you're slamming your pool. This article in Pool School will help you understand the SLAM process: http://www.troublefreepool.com/content/125.
    If you order from TFtestkits, the shipping is pretty quick.

    In order for any help on the forum to be helpful to you, you need to embrace the TFP method and to do that you absolutely must have a test kit.

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    Bleach and Liquid Chlorine are the same chemical by different names and concentrations. LC is 10%-12.5% Sodium Hypochlorite. Bleach can be up to 8.25% concentration. You can compare price per active once by this link.

    Until you receive your test kit, add 1/2 -1 jug of LC per evening and before you start start your SLAM, I'd turn off the SWG. It'll be a waste. Turn it back on once you pass the three criteria (OCLT-FC, OCLT-CC, and clear water).
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    Thanks for all the help. I'll get a test kit ordered and try to figure out all these levels in the mean time.
    Central Ohio. 7,000 gallon AG with an intex 2,800 gph sand filter, SWG.

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    While you wait on the kit, here's some homework!

    Suggest you read up on this:
    Pool School - ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry

    Also, here is a link to PoolMath tutorial. You can play with it now to start familiarizing yourself with it: Pool School - PoolMath

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    Re: Advice please!

    TC - 5 ppm
    CYA - 70 ppm
    PH - 7.2
    TA - 70 ppm

    There was no hardness in my water...at all. I guess between our city water and the SWG?

    TC is high, but I've been running the boost for 3 days now and added bleach every day too.

    The water is no longer green, it smells really clean, but is still cloudy.

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    At 70, your FC is at the low end. Your CYA is a bit high though. You'll need to drain/refill some of the water to get it below 50. Then do a SLAM to clear the cloudiness.
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    Re: Advice please!

    With SWG, I read CYA should be between 60 and 80.

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    rdawes.....I've only been around a year. Ask away, anything that concerns you, and you will be directed to the correct solution. If you jump forum protocol for some reason, the experts/moderators will explain what to do and what not to do. No yelling here. They want us to make the best use of TFP and all the information available to you.
    You're going to find honest, knowledgable people here with expert advice willing and wanting you to understand and enjoy your pool owning experience without getting held up the pool store or sent in the wrong direction chasing magic solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husky25 View Post
    At 70, your FC is at the low end. Your CYA is a bit high though. You'll need to drain/refill some of the water to get it below 50. Then do a SLAM to clear the cloudiness.
    Are you sure about this? It flies in the face of Pool School for SWG pools.

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    My bad. I didn'the realize you had a SWG. Disregard the CYA comment. You still need a SLAM to get rid of the cloudiness.
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    No worries. And we're in the process of a Slam. Is the water safe to swim in during the SLAM process?

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    If you have a Cya of 70,your shock level is 23. If your FC is at 23 there's no way you want to swim in it. Also you said you can't see the bottom which makes it a dangerous situation to swim in.

    Your last post had a FC of 5. We're you able to get it up to to the shock level of 23?

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