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    Algae

    The pool had algae when I opened it in last week of May. After 2 weeks, it turned blue and cloudy. Testing water with the pool company almost daily, I noticed even after putting shock, free chlorine level was always around 0. They recommended to not add any shock and apply phosphate and wait for 48 hours. Sad part I have now green pool with Algae. I got the TF-100 kit and tested water yesterday.

    Here was the reading
    CYA =50
    FC =0.5
    CC = 1
    TA =100
    PH=7.2
    CL=0.75

    I added 6 Gallons(10%) of liquid chlorine from walmart yesterday evening , waited for few hours and read the FC = 0.5

    Added another 6 more Gallons by night and checked after an hour and FC = 3

    This morning I checked again and the FC was 1.25

    I added another 12 Gallon of Liquid chlorine and it now shows FC=3.0 .

    Pump is running 24/7 since opened the pool.

    Please help.
    2002 build ingroud pool, Size: 39 9 x 20 9 (30K gal), vinyl liner , Hayward chlorinator, 1.5 HP motor and a 30 sand filter, Pentair 500lbs sand, Aerotemp heat pump with 50 amp breaker.

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    Re: Algae

    Welcome! You have a great test kit. Read Pool School - SLAM - Shock Level And Maintain Learn it & live it! Any questions or clarifications just ask.
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    Re: Algae

    Great start on getting the test kit and attacking the algae!

    It is startling how much FC your pool is consuming. 6 gallons should be taking you from zero to 20 ppm. You've got to keep hitting it with bleach until you can start to observe only a few ppm after an hour of addition. A large pool means lots of bleach at the start, but it should go down as you burn through the algae. Keep circulating and brushing!
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    Re: Algae

    How much of Liquid chlorine should I add at a time? The chlorinating liquid product shows every Gallon of Liquid Chlorine will increase 5-10 ppm of chlorine. I have 30K gallon pool. Adding 12 Gallon of Chlorine and I expect the FC to be 20. Am I not adding enough? I tested again and it now shows FC =1.0.
    2002 build ingroud pool, Size: 39 9 x 20 9 (30K gal), vinyl liner , Hayward chlorinator, 1.5 HP motor and a 30 sand filter, Pentair 500lbs sand, Aerotemp heat pump with 50 amp breaker.

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    Re: Algae

    Northern folks with big pools! JVTrain and I are your brethren! No S. Florida 5K gallon kids here.

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    http://www.troublefreepool.com/calc.html Don't go by the bottle.
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    Re: Algae

    You need to use pool math each time to determine your chlorine need. If you can, test every 1-1/2 - 2 hours and continue to keep FC at 20. Just helped neighbor and found some times it took 1 gallon, next time 4. The longer you can keep it at consistent slam level, the more algea is being killed. Don't forget to backwash your filter.
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    Re: Algae

    You've come to the right place and you have the right kit. At first, you may have to test every 30 minutes or so. As you are able to hold FC, you can test and add less frequently. Wal-mart has been carrying the 10% bleach for 2.50 just make sure the batches are fresh. The date codes are Julian, yyddd. So, a 16030 stamp indicates it was bottled on the 30th day of 2016. The fresher the better.

    At first, you will probably add a lot of bleach, but it will slow down as you make progress. Don't wait too long as the algae will continue to multiply when your FC gets below the minimum for your CYA: Pool School - Chlorine / CYA Chart

    Brush daily and backwash when your pressure rises 25%.

    Once you get this swam cleared, the maintenance levels are easily maintained with very little bleach... but it takes a lot to defeat algae in big pools like ours.

    If you are unsure of something, ask and we will help.
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    Re: Algae

    Thank you all for your advices and really appreciate it.

    I am testing water every hour or two and adding shock to keep it to the targeted shock level 20. I see last 2 tests showing FC of 13.5. Do I need to test CYA to adjust FC target?

    Between I got the bleach from Wal-mart for 2:50 and the date is 147th of 2016 so it is from fresh batch.

    Thanks
    2002 build ingroud pool, Size: 39 9 x 20 9 (30K gal), vinyl liner , Hayward chlorinator, 1.5 HP motor and a 30 sand filter, Pentair 500lbs sand, Aerotemp heat pump with 50 amp breaker.

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    Re: Algae

    If your last CYA result was taken greater than 24 hours after the last time you added any form of cya/stablizer, those results are still good.

    CYA levels only change if: a) add CYA/Stabilizer in the form of powdered chlorine, pucks, liquid cya/stabilizer or powdered cya/stabilizer; or b) if you have replaced a lot of water like backwashing several times.

    We try to stay away from the word shock as it can be confusing. Use the word bleach or liquid chlorine when you are adding bleach/liquid chlorine.
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    Re: Algae

    It is 9 days since I start SLAM. I kept the chlorine level at 20 ppm until 2 days back after passed the OCLT and CC is 0.5. The water is blue, but cloudy and still cannot see the bottom of the shallow end. The pump has never stopped running and I brush couple of times daily. Can I let the chlorine drop to the targeted FC level while the filter keep run to clear the water?
    2002 build ingroud pool, Size: 39 9 x 20 9 (30K gal), vinyl liner , Hayward chlorinator, 1.5 HP motor and a 30 sand filter, Pentair 500lbs sand, Aerotemp heat pump with 50 amp breaker.

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    Re: Algae

    Quote Originally Posted by samtmathew View Post
    It is 9 days since I start SLAM. I kept the chlorine level at 20 ppm until 2 days back after passed the OCLT and CC is 0.5. The water is blue, but cloudy and still cannot see the bottom of the shallow end. The pump has never stopped running and I brush couple of times daily. Can I let the chlorine drop to the targeted FC level while the filter keep run to clear the water?
    SLAM doesn't end until water is clear.

    30K? gal (20x40, 3ft shallow to 8-9ft hopper), Vinyl IG, single speed 1HP pump, Hayward Micro Clear DE-3600 filter, Hayward Aqua Rite SWG T15 Cell, Rheem/Raypack M206A heater

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    Re: Algae

    No. You need to continue until the water is crystal clear. Stopping now. I can't see your filter type... I'm on tapatalk. If you have a sand filter consider adding de. There is a pool school article detailing how to add de. Sand filters take a long time to filter out the finer particles.

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    Re: Algae

    Keep that FC up until the water is clear. This is the home stretch!
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    Re: Algae

    I am now maintaining the chlorine to the shock level and added DE to sand filter yesterday. I saw a sudden increase of 1.5 PSI, but I didn't see any further increase even after 24 hours. Can I continue to add DE to the sand filter since there was no improvement to the water clarity?
    2002 build ingroud pool, Size: 39 9 x 20 9 (30K gal), vinyl liner , Hayward chlorinator, 1.5 HP motor and a 30 sand filter, Pentair 500lbs sand, Aerotemp heat pump with 50 amp breaker.

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    Re: Algae

    No need to add more than produces about a 1 psi increase. It's patience and keeping the pool week mixed to help get all the particles out.

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