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    high conditioner

    Getting ready to slam and started by raising ph 6.8 I added 16 lbs of borax and now ph is 7.5 but conditioner jumped to 100 FROM 40 HELP

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    Re: high conditioner

    Hello and welcome to TFP! Raising pH with borax is fine, but it won't have any effect on your CYA. CYA is increased by products that have stabilizer in them, either by adding a granule/liquid stabilizer/conditioner, or repetitive use of chlorine tablets/bags of shock.

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    Re: high conditioner

    Welcome. Exactly how did the CYA level------jump?
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    Re: high conditioner

    Not sure , went up after adding borax and testing 3 hours later using test strips to get a rough idea where it was. Will test with Taylor kit on Monday
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    Re: high conditioner

    Throw the test strips as far as you can throw them. CYA can only increase if you put more in. Another testimonial to the complete worthlessness of test strips.
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    Re: high conditioner

    Stop. You cannot SLAM with test strips. Period. There's a reason the SLAm article lists as FAS-DPD tester as a prerequisite.

    Using test strips, you're working practically blind. At high FC levels, the color pads will bleach out, so even if they were accurate in the beginning they still wouldn't work. Try to paint a picture in the dark. Odds are you'll get paint on the canvas but it won't look like what you wanted. All you'll have done is make a mess and waste paint. Chlorine is the paint and the pool is the canvas. The test kit is the light you use to see by.
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    Re: high conditioner

    Welcome to TFP!

    We prefer to read test strips face down in the trash can. I wish I could remember who said that to give proper credit, but I can't.
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    Re: high conditioner

    Maybe we should give those test strips away to someone at the pool store. Just kidding of course well maybe no not really... 😀

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    Re: high conditioner

    So are you sure you don't like test strips? Tested with taylor kit ph 7.4 cya 75. Dumping 10000 gals refill and start to slam on tues. I sure hope that will do it.
    I will let you know and thanks for the advice. Total water in pool is 25000 gals
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