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    Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    This is our second year with this Intex pool and somewhat no problems from last year. We said this year we wanted to get away from the over the wall Intex basket and go with a Hayward inside mount or whatever you guys/gals call it

    I have searched the forum and I'm now just confused.... I'm just looking for the best options for doing this. Do I go with a wide mouth or the standard Hayward. What is the best way to plumb it? So I have the return which i'm good on what about the suction port is that still used with using the Hayward skimmer? I have seen photos of the Hayward skimmer going straight to the pump and others are using the suction port as well??? Pictures would be fantastic!

    Please help

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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Do a search for "intex hayward skimmer" and you will find all the info and pictures you need, there are lots and lots.
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    I understand that I have done that but some people do certain ways and I want to know why.
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    You can PM the OP of the thread. If it is a current thread they may still be active and willing to answer your questions.

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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    It is not very clear what you are wondering about. Standard or widemouth is just a matter of looks, they are basically the same. The widemouth has an attachment and requires a larger cut in the liner but looks better IMO. Most people hardplumb the skimmer in parallell with the suction port using valves. That way you can adjust the circulation depending on if your solar cover is on, if you are vacuuming, if the water is low or high etc. Lots of pictures of this setup available.
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickelin View Post
    It is not very clear what you are wondering about. Standard or widemouth is just a matter of looks, they are basically the same. The widemouth has an attachment and requires a larger cut in the liner but looks better IMO. Most people hardplumb the skimmer in parallell with the suction port using valves. That way you can adjust the circulation depending on if your solar cover is on, if you are vacuuming, if the water is low or high etc. Lots of pictures of this setup available.
    If you hard plumb do you have to be concerned of the movement the pool will make when you have 5 - 10yrs in the pool I ordered my wide mouth last night.
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by octanefam View Post
    If you hard plumb do you have to be concerned of the movement the pool will make when you have 5 - 10yrs in the pool I ordered my wide mouth last night.
    I just soft/hard plumbed my intex. While there are many that have successfully hard plumbed with no issues from the vinyl pool sidewall moving, I addressed this issue of "horse play and moving sidewalls" by including a few sections of FLEX PVC in my set up. I'm thinking they can absorb some movement and help keep all of the joints nice n tight. I installed the standard hayward skimmer last year and decided to get rid of the intex hoses and upgrade to better plumbing this year. I tied in the original intake on the suction side and plan on using that as a dedicated vac port. On the return side I added a return about 10" off the bottom of the pool to help get better circulation, and will be adding a fountain as well. I am filling my pool right now and can send you a pic of the set up tomorrow if you like.

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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by GregN View Post
    I just soft/hard plumbed my intex. While there are many that have successfully hard plumbed with no issues from the vinyl pool sidewall moving, I addressed this issue of "horse play and moving sidewalls" by including a few sections of FLEX PVC in my set up. I'm thinking they can absorb some movement and help keep all of the joints nice n tight. I installed the standard hayward skimmer last year and decided to get rid of the intex hoses and upgrade to better plumbing this year. I tied in the original intake on the suction side and plan on using that as a dedicated vac port. On the return side I added a return about 10" off the bottom of the pool to help get better circulation, and will be adding a fountain as well. I am filling my pool right now and can send you a pic of the set up tomorrow if you like.

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    Picutres would be great if you dont mind.

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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    I'm considering the same thing. And of course, images would be great.. Looking forward to seeing what you've done..

    Thanks
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Here is mine. 50mm PVC pipes connected to 50mm PVC flex hose.
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    That looks great. I'm thinking of eliminating the intex valves on the pool wall like you did. How did you connect to the pool wall?
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Schnozz View Post
    I'm considering the same thing. And of course, images would be great.. Looking forward to seeing what you've done..

    Thanks
    I knew I couldn't be the only one looking at doing this. Yes pictures are great.

    Nice work MIckelin just gave me more ideas. What are the pros and cons in eliminating the Intex plunger valves?

    Thanks again!
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    The Intex valves restrict the flow, much better flow with "real" valves. I found a webstore here in Sweden that has "Intex to 50mm" adapters. PVC adaptor hona 50-2"fri inv hos POOLKLOR.COM
    They can be used with one of these 50mm to 1,5" inserts: PVC limbussning amerika 50mm-48,5mm(1") hos POOLKLOR.COM
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Thanks! I guess the real issue is the return. Since I have a skimmer and the outlet is just a backup to the skimmer, the flow rate isn't critical.
    Another option is to get a Hayward return (I have one that came with my skimmer). I could use that to replace the Intex return jet. It would connect directly to 1-1/2" PVC (or at least more simply than the Intex return).
    I'd feel a lot better getting all the Intex parts replaced. They make great pools and decent pumps and SWGs, but pretty lousy plumbing in between.
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    The left most return in my pic is a Hayward, connected through a standard 1.5" connector.
    Intex Ultra Frame 24'x12'x52" (732cm x 366cm) rectangular pool
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    So it is! Thanks.
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by octanefam View Post
    Picutres would be great if you dont mind.

    Thanks!
    Sorry for the somewhat tardy reply....busy working on pool. Here are a few pics of my almost complete set-up.
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by GregN View Post
    Sorry for the somewhat tardy reply....busy working on pool. Here are a few pics of my almost complete set-up.
    No pictures
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Yes, I realized that the attachments didn't come through. I have exceeded the amount of space allotted for storage, and I can't seem to delete what is there to free up space. I will try contacting a moderator to fix this issue.
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    Re: Somewhat Newbie with Skimmer Questions

    Post your pics on an external hosting site like Photobucket and then just post the links here.
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