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    New to this green, leaky, cloudy mess.

    Hello all!

    My husband and I moved into our first house in April and inherited a not-very-old (2013, though the pump was apparently replaced last year) above ground pool. Basically all I know about it is it's 18' in diameter and I think 4' deep--I'll have to see if I can find the brand name somewhere on it.

    It was pretty much full at the end of the winter (still thawing for the last week of April). By the time we turned on the pump only to discover several parts of the system leaked, figured out what they all were, found the parts, and made judicious use of duct-taped rubber gloves (shh) to seal up the last of the pump-connection leaks, an unexpected May heat wave had come and gone and left us with a murky green, tiny swimmy-thing infested swamp.

    A shock of chlorine killed the swimmers, some backwashing and refreshing with our finally functioning pump (& sand filter, which has a broken pressure gauge which I'm guessing I should fix?) have gotten rid of the obvious muck, but it's still a pale green and completely opaque. A first chemical test (we've only got the basic pH/chlorine drop one--ordered the fancy Taylor kit to be delivered to Canada-land in about, uh, three weeks) put our alkalinity off the charts (8.4+) and, (unsurprisingly, I think) our chlorine levels near zero.

    So. I have added a little under the pool math's recommended amount of mutaric acid, assuming we had a starting pH of 8.4, and will recheck this evening. Then more chlorine, I'm guessing (a full second shock assuming the alkilinity minimized the effect of the first one?) and then we wait and see what the filter can make of it? If it stays hazy despite having a better pH and a few days of filtering, do we look at these flocculant products? Should we bother getting the other levels checked at a pool store while waiting for our kit? It sounds like getting those levels right make it easier to keep the correct pH/chlorine concentration but won't actually hurt us if they're off.

    I probably should also figure out how the vacuum works...no idea what the mess at the bottom might be like, since we haven't seen it yet!

    Let me know if I should take these questions to the starting out forum! I'm thrilled to find a chemistry-heavy (we're physics nerds so it's been a few years since basic inorganic chemistry), product-light forum for us to learn from. We weren't sure we'd be keeping the pool long-term, but I'd like to make a solid go at getting the process down before deciding it's a figurative wash!
    18' diameter above-ground pool (7600 gallons/30k litres). Hayward pump & sand filter.
    Taylor K-2006 test kit.

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    Re: New to this green, leaky, cloudy mess.

    Hello and welcome to TFP! You have the right idea ... lower pH, increase FC as best as you can for now, and keep stirring things up. But do not buy any pool store products or get too crazy with bleach until your receive your test kit in the mail. It will be tough to wait, but that's best. Anything else right now is simply guessing and we don't want you to waste time or money. Hang in there and keep us posted on your test kit. Nice to have you with us.
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    Re: New to this green, leaky, cloudy mess.

    Thanks! It's gonna be tough to wait for the shipping, but at least I can get the pH in line and keep the water from being completely stagnant and infested in the meantime!

    I've been reading through the stickied posts here and am slowly realizing that all the various chemicals the previous owners left in the shed are not necessarily things I'm going to want to use up, eh? I better look at chemical disposal practices for some of it...

    Out of curiosity rather than any actual plans to do so, is there ever a point when draining and starting from scratch is the more practical option? I was surprised the pool hadn't been drained over the winter, but it was 3/4 full and it sounds like the previous owners never emptied it. On one hand it seems like a waste of water, but on the other, if some of the levels are crazy out of whack when I get my testing kit, and I live in the mythical land of free, unmetered and clean water, well... Might that be the easiest approach?

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    Re: New to this green, leaky, cloudy mess.

    Welcome

    It is better to drain when certain things that are not consumed in the pool are too high. Mainly cya which is stabilizer or calcium. Both of those chemical compounds won't be consumed in the pool.......meaning they stay until you drain or have enough rain water exchange. Chlorine gets consumed.

    Without high CYA or CH there really isn't a need to drain......no matter how green.....it can be fixed with proper chlorination.
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    Re: New to this green, leaky, cloudy mess.

    There are occasions when water replacement, at least some of it, is a good option. But we honestly won't know until your kit arrives. Your own test results will tell us what needs to be done. For now, just adding a little bleach each evening is best just to try and keep things from getting much worse.
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