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    Free deck planing or service website?

    Hi there TFP,

    Does anyone have any suggestions for a free deck planning website or service that I can use to draw up a pool deck for a permit application. Decks.com is great but I can manipulate the plans for a pool step cut in.

    Thanks in advance


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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    Send me a PM with what you are looking for. I may be able to help.

    If you are wanting to do it yourself, have you looked into Google SketchUp?
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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    Thank you so much. I'll pm you.


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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    I just saw your other post HERE. Is the city requiring engineering or are you planning to meet prescriptive building codes for spans and lumber sizes?

    Something like this?

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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    They didn't require engineering. They are allowing me to draw it up myself. I'm trying to figure out if i can just go with nailing the 2x6 rim joist to the 4x4 post. I'm only going 28" above grade.


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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    Quote Originally Posted by mapromonyc View Post
    They didn't require engineering. They are allowing me to draw it up myself. I'm trying to figure out if i can just go with nailing the 2x6 rim joist to the 4x4 post. I'm only going 28" above grade.


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    I doubt they will allow the deck built in that fashion. That would place all of the deck's weight in a shear load on only the nails.

    A 4x(H) beam should sit on top of a 4x4 post with a Simpson EPC or PC style post cap (or equivalent). The joists should span from beam to beam with joist blocking in between and an A35 (or equivalent) from the blocking to beam. I'll get you a detail tomorrow if needed.

    The picture posted above was built in exactly that manner and was planned and inspected.
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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    Thank you. Do you think I'll need a concrete form column 36" or can I dig 36" and pour concrete and place post on top and back fill?


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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    36" because of the frost depth?

    Either way, the footing should be 8" above the grade and use a PB or CB style anchor for the post.
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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    I'm not really sure of the frost depth. I was told that that would be sufficient. I created a deck plan through lowes. Would this be better?


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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    Thank you.


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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    This is helpful


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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    I'm not sure why you want to go the footing route though. You can likely float the deck on piers since the pool itself is doing the same thing.

    Make sure that the lumber spans are within their rated capacities and positive connections are made between members.
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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    The building department mentioned I can dig 36" then add cement but put some type of bracket down in the hole then attach post. Did I understand that correctly? Thought the brackets are attached on the footing above grade


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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    The bracket would be an PB or CBSQ type anchor...



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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    That would be the bracket above grade? I may have misheard him.


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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    Any bracket would require me to bolt into the post.


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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    The footing will sit 8" above the grade and protrude 36" deep. The anchors have a lower portion that gets embedded into the concrete, allows for a 1" standoff height, and has upper supports that provide a positive connection for the post.

    The anchor details pictured above show that type of installation.

    I don't think you are clear on what the building department is asking of you. It certainly sounds like they are looking for construction documents that show a foundation and framing plan as well as connection details. They may not want engineered but the lumber specs will need to meet the span ratings for live/dead loads, shear and uplift forces....
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    Re: Free deck planing or service website?

    Understood. They said they are just following the 2010 NYS building codes. It gets confusing because I see excerpts on freestanding vs ledger board attachment.


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