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    Newbie AGP upgrades?

    Hello everyone. I just bought our first pool this week (Intex Ultra Frame 22'x52") and am wondering what the usual upgrades are. The pool is still in the box and came with a 2500 GPH pump and canister filter, but I am planning on swapping this out for the Intex 3000 GPH Pump and Sand Filter. Is this a good setup? I was also thinking about going the saltwater route. Without getting into a Chevy/Ford type discussion, is this the more popular thing these days? Thanks everyone!

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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    Excellent decision on the Intex sand filter. A lot more efficient than the cartridge Intex type and easier to maintain! On the salt water question, on an Intex pool it will do you wonders. Be sure you invest in a good test kit to make your life a whole lot easier. We recommend the TF100. No complaints whatsoever out of it. Also, if you aren't a veteran in pool care, check out pool school on the upper right hand corner of this site.

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    Thanks for the info. Im sure I'll have a lot more questions
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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    What about a skimmer? Is one necessary? If so, which brands? Hayward I heard makes a nice thru-wall one. Is it a good idea to compromise the integrity of the wall to install one? I worry about the liner tearing where the screws are.
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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    Personally, I would recommend a skimmer. You can get the Intex clip on ones, but I would still recommend a through the wall skimmer. Many of our members have taken the plunge and installed one. There are plenty of tutorials on YouTube, and I'm sure many members would be happy to chime in and give you tips on how to do it specifically.

    Brand wise, I'm a Hayward guy so I would personally recommend them. The one I purchased has a huge basket inside, which is typical for most haywards. Also about the liner, if you follow the instructions of members or videos you won't have any problems.
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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    The biggest drawback I see to having a through wall skimmer is the amount of water depth you loose. Mine is only a 48" pool which really is only about 42" of water at the highest point, and I do not want to lose another 6". I just use the clip on Intex one.
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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrelB View Post
    The biggest drawback I see to having a through wall skimmer is the amount of water depth you loose. Mine is only a 48" pool which really is only about 42" of water at the highest point, and I do not want to lose another 6". I just use the clip on Intex one.
    I feel the same way. Until I have to get all the fluffies and bugs out of the pool. I'm still on the fence.

    If you get the bigger filter, a vac is a good investment. I just use the manual type. Works great.

    A decent ladder can be a good upgrade also, especially if adults will be using the pool. We built a small deck and got steps. But in the interim, we borrowed a Confer ladder and it was sturdier than the wobbly ladder they come with.
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    Welcome!

    Single best thing you can buy after the pool itself is a proper test kit. You can take a few minutes to read the article in pool school, or just skip to TFTestkits.net. Nobody who has bought a speedstir with their kit regrets it, either. No lie.

    Lots of people install a through-wall skimmer. Lots of people install hard plumbing. Some great threads are listed here: Useful links for fellow Intex Pool Owners
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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    I have to agree about the skimmer. Even if you don't want one in the wall, a mounted one is better than none at all.
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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    Which Intex sand filter/pump would you recommend? The 2800 gph or 3000 gph? The 3000 is $50 more.

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    Sand filter upgrade is a must, we did that after one season with the crappy cartridge. I'd go for the bigger one if it's only 50$ more!

    The thing about putting a wall skimmer on an intex is that cutting the liner worried me, so we never did it. We did ok with the over the wall one and skimming manually every day.
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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    In this order:

    1) a good test kit
    2) the biggest pump and sand filter you can find
    3) a through the wall skimmer
    4) a saltwater generator
    5) the Intex pool robot
    6) plastic margarita glasses
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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    So if I go with the TF100 kit, what else do I need if I go saltwater?

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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    I'm starting to second guess the saltwater decision. It seems like a lot of above ground pools are deteriorating prematurely. Opinions?

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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffchap View Post
    In this order:

    1) a good test kit
    2) the biggest pump and sand filter you can find
    3) a through the wall skimmer
    4) a saltwater generator
    5) the Intex pool robot
    6) plastic margarita glasses
    7) hard plumbed using 1.5" PVC

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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    I second Jeffchap/Piolins list. Properly mounted above the seam, you dont lose any depth with a through wall skimmer, see the other threads on the subject. The Intex skimmer is better than no skimmer, but just barely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piolin View Post
    7) hard plumbed using 1.5" PVC

    Starting day 5/25/2015 INTEX AGP 24'x12'x54" 8400 gal, with salt and borax, INTEX 16"sand filter, WM Hayward Skimmer, Intex SWG CG-28669, 1 1/2" hard plumbed PVC, Lil' Shark Vacuum With Leaf Canister, TF100 test kit, speed stir, K-1766 Taylor salt test
    8) Intex floating lounge chairs
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    11) wireless floating thermometer
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    Re: Newbie AGP upgrades?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObWan View Post
    I'm starting to second guess the saltwater decision. It seems like a lot of above ground pools are deteriorating prematurely. Opinions?
    Seriously I don't think this is the case of a well balanced pool like the one you will find here, take in account that Intex pool are to be last only 3 or 4 years most times... Maybe more in some places...

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