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    Opened green

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    I'm thinking the tarp cover has a few small holes and some leaves got in too. Plus I know I sucked alot of the treated water out through the course of sucking water off the cover throughout the winter. Guess It'll take a longer SLAM to start the season. If my cya is 0 barely registering, it is ok to add it while I'm slamming correct? I'm adding 5 lbs of stabilizer as I type this. Should bring it to 20ish.
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    Re: Opened green


    Looking better already
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    Re: Opened green

    Trev, before you add any stabilizer ... because you have zero CYA and probably no FC either and the water is so green, I would suggest eliminating ammonia from the equation right off the bat. Please perform the following, and from there you can roll right into your SLAM. Of course adjust pH to about 7.2 FIRST:
    1. Begin a SLAM and dose FC up to SLAM level. If your CYA test is showing as zero (perhaps already converted to ammonia), use a SLAM/Shock FC of 10. Do not add additional CYA at this point.
    2. Retest FC at 10-minute intervals.
    a. If FC loss is greater than 50%, add FC to bring back up to SLAM level and continue retesting FC @ 10-minute intervals.
    b. IF FC loss is 50% or less, add FC to bring back up to SLAM level. Go to Step 3.
    3. If CYA is below 30 ppm, add enough CYA to bring level up to 30 ppm.
    4. Continue SLAM as directed in the SLAM article until the SLAM Criteria of Done are met. Test as directed in the SLAM article - no longer need to test FC at 10 minute increments at this point.

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    Re: Opened green

    Before you add the stabilizer I want you to run a simple test first. If you are adding it in a sock just pull out the sock and place it in a bowl or bucket for a few minutes until you get the results of the test.

    Add enough chlorine to reach 10ppm for your pool. Run the pump and wait 10 minutes then go check the FC level. If most of the chlorine is gone in 10 minutes you should begin slamming before adding any CYA.

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    Re: Opened green

    Later tonight or tomorrow post a full set of results so we can make sure everything is going well.
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    Re: Opened green

    Ok. I'll pull out stabilizer first. Its only been in for a couple hours. I should note that I keep my cya around 25 to max 30 during the course of the season so i can use tabs when i go on vacation. Then i drain the pool when i close to right under the return valve so this takes the water down to about the second step. .
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    So far in 2 hours I lost about 2ppm so i dont think ammonia is present. I will check again in a little bit. I had already taken it up to 14ish in anticipation of the 20cya reading and dosed a little high to give me a little more time before adding again. Thanks for the help. I will check the level again in an hour

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    Re: Opened green

    Quote Originally Posted by TrevNJPool View Post
    So far in 2 hours I lost about 2ppm so i dont think ammonia is present. I will check again in a little bit. I had already taken it up to 14ish in anticipation of the 20cya reading and dosed a little high to give me a little more time before adding again. Thanks for the help. I will check the level again in an hour

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    I tried to post a second pic from photobucket in the second post cause it told me i was over the limit, but i cant get the pic to show from the url

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    I tried to post a second pic from photobucket in the second post cause it told me i was over the limit, but i cant get the pic to show from the url
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    Thanks Richard! How the heck did u do that. What url did u use? It kept telling me invalid url
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrevNJPool View Post
    Thanks Richard! How the heck did u do that. What url did u use? It kept telling me invalid url
    On the sidebar where it says "Direct" I copied and pasted it within the image command. I unchecked the "Retrieve remote file and reference locally" box.
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    Re: Opened green

    Ok in 2 hrs lost 2ppm. Is it ok to put the cya back in?
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    Re: Opened green

    Yes. You must not have ammonia or in 2 hours you'd have lost it all.
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    Getting closer. Can't make out bottom drain yet. Not having to backwash as much. I think I may have to get some DE in the filter to trap some fine particles. Havent been able to vacuum yet because of rain, but I have brushed it many times. Kinda running it by testing once then clorinating by pool math. Stupid me didnt order my refills in time but they are on the way. Good thing i know that a bottle of bleach raises fc by almost 3.
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    Stuck on milky blue. I guess i have to get the DE in there. I have been maintaining the FC over slam level since Friday afternoon and been brushing atleast 2X a day. Havent got to vacuum yet due to the weather but figured the more algae that was dead the better. We'll see if it goes faster once the vacuuming is done.
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    Re: Opened green

    Just starting to see the bottom drain. Added DE to filter

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    PH WAS 7.2
    CYA ASSUMING 20
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    Very good!
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    Bottom drain is visible. I've been using DE in the filter. I have to backwash alot. Im not sure if thats normal or not.

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    Re: Opened green

    Quote Originally Posted by TrevNJPool View Post

    Bottom drain is visible. I've been using DE in the filter. I have to backwash alot. Im not sure if thats normal or not.
    Not only normal but expected and a good sign. The DE will catch a lot of stuff that would slip through the sand, so it'll load up fast. The color is nice now!
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    Re: Opened green

    Does back washing blow out all the DE? I've backed down from 2 1/2 cups DE to one heaping scoop. Runs a bit longer between backwashing. Should I bump it back up?
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