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    DustinSS, Noob

    Good morning guys (and ladies). I'm Dustin from middle TN. I'm going into my second season of pool ownership. Last summer, we had a 24 x 52 above ground pool installed. It has a Pentair Sand Dollar SD-40 filter, not sure of the pump hp, (I'll get it all added in my sig shortly). The installer sold us on the Power Ionizer, and while we were excited with the little maintenance involved, had begun to get worrisome as the summer went by. All I had to "test" the water were copper/ph test strips. I have two girls, and several young nieces/nephews who use this pool, and the more I read about the slow process of sanitation with copper only, the less confident I was in the ionizer use.

    I'm a first time poster, but have read several threads pertaining to the BBB method, and I'm ready to give it a try. I removed my power ionizer, and my pool was so far gone (cloudy, nasty mess) that I drained the water and have started fresh with 12,000 gallons of crystal clear city water. I have glanced through the ABC's of pool chemistry (although a bit intimidating), and I'm ordering a "real" test kit as we speak.

    I appreciate any info/advice you could give (and have already given) along the way!

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    Re: DustinSS, Noob

    Hello Dustin and welcome! Ordering the right test kit is the best thing you could've done - along with disconnecting that ionizer. When your kit arrives, post a full set of numbers and we'll go from there. Nice to have you with us.
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    Welcome to TFP!

    Good plan! Add your pool info to your sig so that we can better help you. More here, Pool School - Read This Before You Post
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    Re: DustinSS, Noob

    Welcome to TFP! You will never regret dumping that ionizer, especially with children involved. Good job on ordering a proper test kit! You're going to need it. Don't freak over all the info. Take it one article at a time.
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    Re: DustinSS, Noob

    you will not believe how clear and sparkly your pool will be this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboycasey View Post
    you will not believe how clear and sparkly your pool will be this year
    I know... Right?!
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    Re: DustinSS, Noob

    Thanks for all the welcomes! As stated earlier, I "converted" from a Power Ionizer where all I ever did was add bleach and occasionally check copper levels.

    I got my Taylor K-2006 this morning, and although a bit intimidated at first, got some test samples:

    FC- No traceable amount. Not sure if I just wasn't doing it correctly or not (added 1 gal bleach 6 days ago)
    PH-7.4
    TA- 70ppm
    CH-70ppm
    CYA- Again, no traceable amount.
    71* Water Temp

    Tossed my numbers into the pool calculator and it tells me to:
    -Add 145 oz Bleach to raise FC
    -Add 9.4 oz Soda Ash to raise PH
    -Add over 4lbs of Stablilizer to raise CYA

    Does this sound about right? Off to a good start as water is crystal clear!

    Thanks
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    14k gallon,24 x 52 Above Ground Pool, Pentair Sand Dollar SD-40 Filter, 1 HP Dynamo Pump, TK-2006 Test Kit

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    PH is fine at 7.4, anywhere 7.2 to 7.8 is OK. Add CYA in a sock, or two. Get some bleach/chlorine in there asap to keep it clear. More here on adding CYA, Pool School - Recommended Pool Chemicals

    Chlorine level is set based on CYA and the Chlorine CYA Chart. It is important to keep it at target and never let it drop below minimum or the pool will be unsanitary and algae will grow.
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    Re: DustinSS, Noob

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustinss View Post
    FC- No traceable amount. Not sure if I just wasn't doing it correctly or not (added 1 gal bleach 6 days ago)
    Another 'Welcome to TFP'!

    Quite likely you were - it's really pretty easy. One thing to remember regarding chlorine (aka bleach), unlike most other pool chemicals you will add with the Trouble Free Pool Care (TFPC) method (formerly known as BBB), is that it's a consumable. After testing, it will normally need to be added EVERY DAY. Moving forward, some also choose a salt water chlorine generator (SWCG) to automate how chlorine gets added to their pools. Just something to keep in mind as you move to take ownership of your backyard pleasure vessel.

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    Re: DustinSS, Noob

    How much what an average add be daily? How many gallons of bleach should I go through in a week? I know it will vary pool to pool and be based on different conditions, but is a gallon a week about right? Just as an estimate? Do I need to buy stock in Clorox? On a serious note, I bought the "regular" bleach.... not the "splashless" kind. Believe it's 8.25% Does this sound right? Thanks!
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    Re: DustinSS, Noob

    Yes, generic concentrated bleach, unscented, not splashless is the right stuff. I get mine at the grocery store. Your pool should use 2-4ppm of chlorine per day. Do you know how to use Poolmath yet to figure out how much bleach that is? I'll give you the answer and you go see if you can repeat it in Poolmath, link above. It takes 21oz of 8.25% bleach to raise FC by 1 ppm in your pool. So, between 40 and 80 oz per day. Keeping your CYA at 50 will keep this on the lower end.
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    Re: DustinSS, Noob

    Yes the pool calculator is awesome. Was just curious how often I need to be doing the testing. Just based on the reading I've done, sounds like daily at first for PH/FC, and "everything else" weekly. Thanks for the insight!

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    Re: DustinSS, Noob

    Yes, that is a good start. Once you understand how your water behaves you can move CYA and CH to monthly. And maybe TA too if your PH and TA remain stable.
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    Re: DustinSS, Noob

    One more thanks to those that contributed. We are about a month into the pool season, and we couldn't be happier and (knock on wood) the water couldn't be clearer. Having a tough time keeping up with the CYA, always seems pretty low, but we are maintaining good PH and FC levels.

    Thanks again! So glad I made the switch from Power Ionizer to this method.
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    Nice to hear things are working well for you. Have a great day.
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    You've received some good advice in this thread, so I will not pile on. But I will welcome you to TFP!
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