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    Please explain "sparkling"

    Ok, I'm an engineer...

    Can someone explain what is meant by "sparkling" water?

    I understand water clarity. It can easily be measured. Does "sparkling" mean "apparently perfect" clarity?

    Or is this referring to reflections that occur on water ripples when the sun is shining?

    If it's the latter, how/why does "sparkling" depend on water chemistry?

    Thanks!

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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Refraction and reflection of sunlight. When the water is properly balanced and extremely clear, it will sparkle. Think of a very clear diamond vs. an occluded gem.

    Between the look and smell of the pool water, I can tell if everything is in balance without testing.

    And yes, I still test.
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Does pH affect the look of the water? I thought I read that somewhere.
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    I still want a "like" button. Well said RobbieH!
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Here is my pool sparkling:

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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Quote Originally Posted by paulmaz View Post
    Does pH affect the look of the water? I thought I read that somewhere.
    It can. If pH is off, I have found that it can cause cloudiness, especially if CH is high. If I walk out and my water isn't sparkling, pH is the first culprit that comes to my mind, and most of the time it has been the issue. That or I haven't been running my robot.

    This is an old picture before the deck grout repair, replaster, and new waterline tile, but this is my idea of sparkling. Note, that main drain you see there is 9 FEET below the surface.

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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Another one

    When it's calm it looks empty, when it's rippling it looks like a diamond.
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    So, can the water clarity be identical, but one pool "sparkle" and the other not?
    When the water is properly balanced and extremely clear, it will sparkle
    So "sparkle" is just a synomym for extremely clear?

    What I think of as "sparkling" depends not only on water clarity but on pool bottom color, ambient light, and surface wavelets. Reflections, in other words.

    Asking a different way, if water clarity between two pools is identical, can one sparkle and another not? Because of ph? Any theory behind this?

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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Good explanation and picture Robbie! That's what I had in my mind when I referred to sparkling water in another post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethomaspilot View Post
    Asking a different way, if water clarity between two pools is identical, can one sparkle and another not? Because of ph? Any theory behind this?
    Yes, as stated above. If balance is off, including pH, it will make a difference. And as stated, if pH is off, it can cause clouding, especially if CH is high. I see cloudy water, I immediately think pH.
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Quote Originally Posted by davethomaspilot View Post
    Ok, I'm an engineer...
    Funny how I knew that just by reading the thread title! engineers!
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    "Is the glass half empty or half full?"

    Engineer: It has a 50% safety factor.
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    A Pool Guy: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Quote Originally Posted by Philo View Post
    A Pool Guy: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
    I was thinking he would say "Throw a trichlor tablet in it and it'll be fine"
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Quote Originally Posted by Philo View Post
    A Pool Guy: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
    LOL!!!!!!!

    In the words of Emeril. Sparkling is ANOTHER notch, TFPC style. Once you see it you will know. I have sparkling water pics and stupid clear night time pics in my build thread below.
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Friggin engineers... lol

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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieH View Post
    Refraction and reflection of sunlight. When the water is properly balanced and extremely clear, it will sparkle. Think of a very clear diamond vs. an occluded gem.

    Between the look and smell of the pool water, I can tell if everything is in balance without testing.

    And yes, I still test.
    Well said. I do the same. If I'm in the water and get my nose right down to the surface, I can smell if there is a problem. The other side of having perfectly clear water is that you can see every spec of dirt (or liner wrinkle) on the bottom and that can drive a person crazy!
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Took some pics tonight. Reminder, that robot is 9' under. If you look closely, you can see the stone and shell in the Primera Stone even in the deep picture. Those are TINY stones. (and polished!)



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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Nice pool!
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    Re: Please explain "sparkling"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bruce View Post
    Another one

    When it's calm it looks empty, when it's rippling it looks like a diamond.
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