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    BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    BBB method for 3-4 years
    22' AG Intex pool
    Cartridge filter (sand setup got taken by a flood, using cartridge setup for opening)
    8,200 gal
    Pool did not get covered over the winter. Work away from home prevented me from doing so.
    Located Southern WV

    SLAMed for 3 days at FC 15, noticed a bit of change then been slaming at 25-30 FC for mustard algae. Not sure if that's what I have, but water kinda looked like it. Been cleaning the filter and running 24/7. Brushing and dip netting pool too.

    FC drops 5ppm overnight.

    TFTESTKIT 100
    Ph 7.6
    CYA 50
    FC 25
    CC 2
    TA 90
    Calcium 120

    Not sure what to do now. Try store algaecide? Drain, clean with bleach and refill?

    Thanks
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    Keep SLAMing. Test and add chlorine as often as you can, at least 3-4 times per day and brush daily.
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    Keep up the SLAM process. Looks like getting there.
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    That's not mustard algae. Are you following the guide lines in the SLAM article exactly? You have to keep redosing your pool more often than I think you are.

    No algaecide. Looks like perhaps you used some already but no more.

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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    Too me, that filter set up looks woefully undersized for the pool. It will take ages to filter out all the dead algae and complete the SLAM. Any other options for replacement since your sand filter is gone?
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    SLAM level for 50 ppm CYA is 20 ppm FC. Looks like your first 3 days at 15 FC were just keeping it at bay.

    Do you have some way to vacuum your pool to waste?
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    Clean the filter everyday and monitor FC at least 3x day. Been keeping the FC up to 25-30. The water is cloudy like glacier or snow melt water now. I'd get a new sand setup, but I'm planning on moving this year.
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    What cartridge are you using in it? The intex are not reusable ... and are horrible. Aftermarket are better.

    Honestly it may take a LONG time (if ever) to get clear water with that filter.
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    Intex B. Honestly at this point I'm thinking about draining it and calling the fire department to come fill it back up. I know the rinky dink pump/filter combo (actually the pump on this setup flows more than sand pumps for this setup) will run it just fine with a stable BBB pool because I've done it before. Rather than spend a couple hundred dollars on a new pump (that I won't take with me when I move because I plan on a IG BIG pool,) more chemicals and testing chemicals, it'd be cheaper and less hassle to refill it. Thanks anyhow fellas.

    What would be the proper way to clean and disinfect it after draining it?
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    The problem with the fire dept is that the water may be worse than what you have. Sometimes that water has been sitting in the pipes for a long time. We've seen some bad fire department refills here. If they can tell you that the water is clean and iron free then go for it. I would raise CYA to 30 and do a quick SLAM.
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    BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    Got a sand filter pump (2800gph, 0.5 cu/sand)

    Here's the numbers and pic after running filter and vacuuming non stop. The wife and I are at our wits end trying to clear the cloudiness up. She looks at me like there's something I can do with the chemicals or should be adding a chemical I'm not thinking of and I don't know what to say. All the numbers look right except for the FC loss overnight. Thanks

    FC 9.5 (down 4.5 from last night)
    CC 0.5
    Ph 8.2 (ph spiked last night for some reason, it did rain)
    TA 80
    Cya 40
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    All the numbers look right except for the FC loss overnight.
    Yes, but that's exactly what you want the test to do.....tell you if you are consuming chlorine through organics.

    Chlorine is lost 2 ways. Organics in your pool or UV light. When you eliminate the UV, the inescapable conclusion is that you have organics in your water.

    Keep the FC at SLAM value ALL THE TIME and I promise you that pool will clear (you are not that far off judging by the pics)
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    Thanks. As of now I adjusted pH and of course added chlorine to SLAM levels. Vacuumed, brushed, skimmed several times. Tic-Toc goes the clock I guess.
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    Update
    Ph 7.3
    FC 14.5 ( <1 ppm overnight )
    CC 1

    Having to backwash filter ever 2 hrs or so. Literally after 2 hrs there's barely any water moving at all.

    With no chlorine being consumed overnight, CC in check, all other levels being good, do I have too much **** in my water to filter?
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    You might want to overshoot your target of 16 a little so you don't fall below. Keep on keeping on, it looked pretty green, it will take some time to clear it.
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    No need to overshoot the shock level FC for your CYA level.
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    Wife reported the water was clear enough to barely make out this pile of leaves in the center at the bottom of the pool. The FC loss is about down to 1.5ppm per 12hrs. Keep on keepin' on..
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    Getting those last leaves out will help a bit. Less wasted FC breaking those down. Keep at it!
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    No amount of bleach, vacuuming, filtering could get the water clear. Backed up and punted.
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    Re: BBB user, cloudiness *PICS and NUMBERS*

    I respectfully disagree with your conclusion. SLAM works.
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