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    Travertine Coping Question

    You guys know the old saying: "Trust...but verify".... Ive installed the travertine coping on my pool and I'm wondering...do the joints need to be grouted like tile or is the poly sand OK? I was thinking with all the water/splashing on the coping - if the joints are not sealed with grout the water will work its way in between the joints and could eventually degrade the mortar base. I live in So. Calif., so freeze thaw is not a problem. I was thinking more long term - to avoid any problems. On the other hand, I don't want to fill in all the divots and make it too slippery. The joints are very tight, less than 1/16.

    What is the general consensus?

    BTW - I like telling my my sub contractors: I asked my pool consultants and they say.... (you guys are my "consultants" !!!)

    thanks in advance.

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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    A couple of things to consider, first Polymeric sand is a relatively new construction material that was first introduced 10-15 years ago, secondly not all polymeric sand is equivalent, as it is still an evolving product.
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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    My travertine coping was grouted.
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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    Mine was grouted too.
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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    Grouted for me as well

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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    Mine was not grouted, just polymeric. I actually never even considered grouting it (until now, gee thanks!! ). Being on an island, the ground moves so I do like the thought that we can remove pavers to fill and re-level easily. Perhaps this is an advantage in CA as well?
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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    Nice pool Frank, I live in SoCal too and our pool was completed two months ago. Thank goodness El Niño never came .


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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    I meant my travertine coping was grouted. My decking pavers are polymeric sand.
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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    I would DEFINTELY grout them.

    Also, since you are only 1/16" spaces, make sure you use a smaller/finer grout. This will allow for more sand per area, which you really need. pack it well too.

    Once it cures for 2 days [and w low humidity], then seal the grout...you can also seal the coping too at the same time, just pay extra attn. to the grout lines and make sure they get sealed well.
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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlahoutex View Post
    I meant my travertine coping was grouted. My decking pavers are polymeric sand.
    I was just wondering about this today What is between decking and coping? Do they grout that or use polymeric sand?
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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    My coping is grouted. Polymeric sand on the deck and between the deck and coping.
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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    Thanks for all the replies everyone. Sounds like it needs to be grouted.

    Im thinking about masking the grout joints closely with masking tape and using silicone caulk instead...


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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    Silicone caulk will probably degrade/discolor in the sun. Just grout it.

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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    Quote Originally Posted by sham View Post
    I was just wondering about this today What is between decking and coping? Do they grout that or use polymeric sand?
    There should be an expansion joint between the coping and deck so movement in one does not affect the other. That joint should be filled with a product that allows expansion/contraction. Polymeric joint sand may allow for this movement, but I think it would be best to use a caulk-like joint sealant specifically designed for this purpose, such as Deck-O-Seal or the similar product by Sika.
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    Re: Travertine Coping Question

    Quote Originally Posted by BigEinAZ View Post
    Silicone caulk will probably degrade/discolor in the sun. Just grout it.
    Good point. Thanks!
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