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    Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!! *Looking Good*

    Frogs galore!!!!! I am just shocked!

    Not sure if we should turn on the pump yet due to the water level?
    Should we completely drain the pool or just scrub it and add more water?
    How do I turn on the pump, how do I know if it's working right?
    Should we test the water
    How to dispose of the frogs (all alive at this point)

    I am so intimiated! Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!

    I added some pics, gotta love the frog floating on the raft, we had a good laugh, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!



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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    If you want to save the frogs you will need to catch them, presumably in a leaf net, and escort them to another location.

    You don't want to start the pump until the water level is raised to the normal operating level.

    Most likely, all that dirt and debris can be easily removed by vacuuming. I doubt that scrubbing will be required.
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Awesome Jason!!!!

    Thanks so much!!! We are now putting the frogs in the wild outdoors, LOL and are doing some light scrubbing on the liner (which comes off easy). As luck would have it we bought a pool vacuum on clearance after Christmas so I will start with that now and also put water into the pool as well.

    So, I will wait to turn pump on until we have a depth of 4 foot ~ then I should add chemicals, right?!?

    Thanks!!!!



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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Get the pump running for at least an hour, test the water, and then figure out what you actually need to add.
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Well, gosh what a LONG day! We finally brought the water up to level and then realized that the pump wasn't under the deck (arrrrg!) but eventually found it in the garage (luckily Hubby remembered seeing it there when we moved in).

    Turned on the pump and everything seems to be in working order ~ we decided to let it run all night until morning and then test since it was almost dark by the time we got the pump working.

    Fingers crossed that we see some turnaround tomorrow!

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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Wow, Amy that is amazing. Is the pool on the side of a hill? (That must have been an interesting installation...)

    Good luck, keep us posted!
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    FPM,

    Thanks for the support! The pool was in installed in 2007 by the previous homeowners, we found the contract to which they paid $11,000 to have the pool installed (WOW!) and only used it one summer and then moved to Hawaii (they are military as are we)

    Def tricky terrain around here, I can't believe the Missouri tree frogs, they drop from the trees into the pool, little suckers!!!! Hubby went to put his hand into the return last night (after we evicted them the froggies) and a few of our friends were hiding out in there, ugggg!

    A question I do have is: I have seen lots of hard shelled snails in the pool. How do I rid the pool of these guys? Will the chemicals kill them once the pool is brought up to par or should I go in and manually remove them?

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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Welcome, Amy

    We had frogs in our pool last year when we opened. Suddenly a large snake appeared, skimming across the water after the frogs
    Since we only had a few frogs, we just used the leaf skimmer to remove them (before the snake could make them dinner). I let DH remove the snake!
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by FunInTheSun
    A question I do have is: I have seen lots of hard shelled snails in the pool. How do I rid the pool of these guys? Will the chemicals kill them once the pool is brought up to par or should I go in and manually remove them?

    Amy
    If shock levels of FC don't kill them, or they don't leave on their own , then yeah, you'll have to go in and manually remove them. Unless of course their presence while you are swimming doesn't bother you then you can leave them :P
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    This Mornings Results (FINALLY GETTING SOMEWHERE!!!!!)

    Threads Merged by FPM

    I have the cheapie test strips from Wallyworld (ugggg) but will be upgrading to a more comphensive kit soon!

    This morning results:

    FC: 1 (Previously Zero) added granular shock 2x yesterday
    pH: 7.5 (Previously 7.2) added Borax yesterday evening
    TA: 80 (Same Level) no treatment

    So I will continue adding bleach (now liquid) to the pool and continue to test. I noticed this morning that the top 3 inches of water appear to be decently clear, yay!!!!!!!!!

    Any thoughts?!?
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    Re: This Mornings Results (FINALLY GETTING SOMEWHERE!!!!!)

    Quote Originally Posted by FunInTheSun
    Any thoughts?!?
    Yes, don't start too many new topics....

    Seriously though, its okay to keep all of your pool-related questions that are specific to your pool opening saga, on one thread. That way it's better for consistency and understanding what has taken place and when, as some opening "saga's" can last a month and include pages of information. If you start a new thread everytime, we have to repeat questions or search for the info.

    If you have to make do with out the recommended test kits, at the very least Wallyworld sells a HTH 6way test kit for around $16. It's results will be more accurate than strips.

    Yes, continue adding bleach....you're gonna need alot of it.
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Oopsie! Gotcha and thanks!!!!. I will continue to keep the thread going, sorry other forums I am on have different ways of doing things, I'll continue my posts in the appropriate threads ~ I can see (now) that it would be confusing to have pages and pages of posts.

    Always a learning process
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Yet another question.

    Yesterday we tried hooking up the skimmer vacuum but it would not maintain a suction ~ very hard to do. We started by blowing out the air from the hose, then hooked up the vacuum and introduced water via our garden hose to fill the unit with water.

    Are we doing this right or is there a proper method? I found this post but what am I actually turning on/off here???? http://www.troublefreepool.com/no-su...cuum%20skimmer I'm confused!!! Thanks!!!!
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Skimmer vacumes are tricky.

    Did you use a skimmer-vacume plate, or did you try plugging the skimmer hole with the hose vacume?

    Either way it's important to have the end of the hose under the water to keep the air from entering the hose. With the pump running, have your vac head/hose attached to the pole at the bottom of the pool. Use the other hose end, holding it up to the return so that the force of the water pushes the air out of the hose, thru the vac head. The vac head will raise up a bit before sinking back down, and you'll see air bubbles breaking the surface. When that subsides a bit, keep the hose end under the water and attach it to the skimmer hole opening (basket removed) or to a skimmer plate cover. I like the skimmer plate because the skimmer basket catches the big stuff and I can clean that easier than the pump basket.

    This is my skimmer plate - part #9 - you can buy something similar to fit your skimmer at the pool store ...

    Sometimes air will still enter the line and you 'll see the pump basket lid empty a bit, but it should fill back up. IF it doesn't the pump lost prime, and you have to start over.

    Now if it feels like you don't have suction from the vac head after all this, either you are going too fast or you don't have a good seal at the skimmer, and it's always possible the hose has a leak and is sucking air. IF you hold the head over some dirt you can usually see the suction clearly, unless the water is too murky. Your baskets will require frequent cleaning if you have a lot of debris.

    If you have a multiport setting the valve should be turned to 100% skimmer, and if you have a 2 speed the pump should be on high.
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Well, Well, Well.........

    Thanks SO much for your info! I tried it to no avail and was very discouraged However I went down below again and decided to turn the unit off and follow the PROPER start up procedures.

    The water coming into the pump was like a gentle waterfall ~ I thought this was how it was suppose to be. After following the start up I noticed that the water inside was like a F5 Tornado!!!!

    I went above to check the return and OMGosh I could see the water rippling across the pool from the return, WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, all of the previous attempts of the vacuum were with the return running at 30-40% and now it's full force ~ the Hubs and I are getting ready to attempt it again here in a bit FINGERS CROSSED!!!

    I am praying we give the debris on the bottom moving orders!!!!
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Well that will make a difference won't it! Let us know how it went!
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    A few friends came over tonight and showed me how to empty our pump filter out (we stuffed plastic bags into the skimmer/return holes). I was finally able to clean it out and it was filled to the brim with debris/acorns/yucky matter ~ I didn't know about the plug in the back of the unit that lets the water that is in the pump out.

    We backwashed my unit, the water was BLACK and nasty but it finally ran clear!!! Also we discovered that the skimmer vaccuum head was CRACKED = why I was unable to maintain pressure before. To bypass it, I am just plugging the hose into the skimmer itself without the head.

    I am filling the pool to the brim tonight and also turned off the pump so all the debris can go the bottom (it was all stirred up). Tomorrow morning (before the kids are up and the Hubs leaves for work) I am going to use the skimmer vaccum in WASTE mode so I can finally clean out our pool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am praying that we can finally SEE some progress!
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!! *Problems*

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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!!

    Well, after several productive Vacuum Waste sessions I am VERY proud to say that the darkened areas of my pool are gone!!!! I still need to work on scrubbing the sides of the pool (hard to do since the pool is full) and then I will be working on adding chemicals and attacking the algae via BBB. I decided not to test until all the debris is gone which I hope is soon!

    Thanks for all the helpful suggestions, I am starting to feel more confident about being a pool owner!
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    Re: Pool Cover Off ~ YIKES!!!! *Problems*

    Keep it up Amy, you're doing great!
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