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    My pool went green...again

    My pool went green again. It's my fault. I wasn't testing appropriately and then there was a bad storm and it got tons of debris and I woke up to green. I'm mid slam right now(hahaha), but I'm pretty confident my filter media has about had it. I know I can add DE to help it out, but idk when this sand was replaced and id like to do it and know it's working. My question is this : is there anything wrong with the quickrete sand filter materiel from Home Depot at 5 and a half bucks for 50 pounds? Quikrete 50 lb. Pool Filter Sand 115350 at The Home Depot - Mobile
    My pool: ~22.6K gallon. 16'x32' with 8 foot deep. 10 year old vinyl liner (prayers)
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    Re: My pool went green...again

    There have been some bad reviews related to using that product for pools. Stick with pool sand designed for pools - #20 silica sand. But hey, what makes you think you current sand is bad? Sand usually doesn't just go back unless something was added to it previously. Maybe it just needs a deep cleaning as noted here: Deep Cleaning a Sand Filter
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    Re: My pool went green...again

    I would definitely do the deep clean first. As long as the sand isn't glued together with some pool store potion it is fine. Sand is millions of years old you aren't going to wear it out.
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    Re: My pool went green...again

    Okay, I'll try the deep clean. I was just worried because as of late it has been spitting sand out into the pool through the returns even after running the rinse for at least 2 minutes. I didn't know if perhaps the sand had broken down to the point that it was slipping through the filter or something. (I'm no scientist :P) Anyway, I'll give her a good deep clean this weekend and see if I can get her cleared up. Thanks a lot!
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    Re: My pool went green...again

    Perhaps your laterals are out of whack or broken and that is allowing sand to return to the pool? Or are you possibly seeing algae and assumed it was sand? Check the feel of it.
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    Re: My pool went green...again

    I'm not a master plumber (or an amateur one). Where does one start with this process?
    My pool: ~22.6K gallon. 16'x32' with 8 foot deep. 10 year old vinyl liner (prayers)
    Century A.O. Smith UST1202 56J C-Face 2 HP Single Speed Up Rated Pool Filter Motor, 19.6/10.4-9.8A 115/208-230V
    Hayward S244T ProSeries 24" In- Ground Sand Pool Filter

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    Re: My pool went green...again

    For deep cleaning you need to remove the top valve assembly (attached by the collar ring). Your manual should have more instructions. Before you can "lift" the valve assembly out of the way to actually get your hands down into the filter, you have to figure-out if the plumbing can be loosened by a fitting, or if some/all of the pipes will have to be "gently" lifted up just enough to get out of the way. I don't see unions, only the threaded male fittings that were originally screwed into the filter then glued to PVC on the other end. You "may" have enough slack in the plumbing to just lift it up out of the way just enough to get your hands into the filter, but it will be close. If you can't do it, then you'd eventually have to cut the plumbing and install unions which would give easy access later. Something not thought of until after the installation.
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    Re: My pool went green...again

    I did have enough slack, but when I pulled up my stand pipe and laterals came up with it. I've tried to separate the drain pop from the multi port but I can't. Now my multi port and stand pipe are resting on my laterals on top of the sand. I'm sure I damaged one. They seem fragile. Also my filter is below half way full of sand. Like well below. How much sand should it have? Also, does anyone have advice on separating my multiport from my stand pipe? If I can't get them separated I'll never get the laterals out to inspect.
    My pool: ~22.6K gallon. 16'x32' with 8 foot deep. 10 year old vinyl liner (prayers)
    Century A.O. Smith UST1202 56J C-Face 2 HP Single Speed Up Rated Pool Filter Motor, 19.6/10.4-9.8A 115/208-230V
    Hayward S244T ProSeries 24" In- Ground Sand Pool Filter

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    Re: My pool went green...again

    GENTLY have someone else hold one end while you hold the other. Both of you pull and ONE of you do a slight turn as you pull. Be gentle but firm in your pulling and turning.

    Oh your laterals should either twist off or fold up to get them out of the filter body. Do a search for your filter using the model number and such.

    Look at your manual to see how much sand you should have and go from there.

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    Re: My pool went green...again

    My pool: ~22.6K gallon. 16'x32' with 8 foot deep. 10 year old vinyl liner (prayers)
    Century A.O. Smith UST1202 56J C-Face 2 HP Single Speed Up Rated Pool Filter Motor, 19.6/10.4-9.8A 115/208-230V
    Hayward S244T ProSeries 24" In- Ground Sand Pool Filter

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    Re: My pool went green...again

    So since my stand pipe and laterals came up out of the sand .... I might as well replace it right? Because I'm gonna have to take it all out to get them back in


    My pool: ~22.6K gallon. 16'x32' with 8 foot deep. 10 year old vinyl liner (prayers)
    Century A.O. Smith UST1202 56J C-Face 2 HP Single Speed Up Rated Pool Filter Motor, 19.6/10.4-9.8A 115/208-230V
    Hayward S244T ProSeries 24" In- Ground Sand Pool Filter

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    Re: My pool went green...again

    Not necessarily. Sand doesn't go bad unless something was added to it to make it go bad. You can scoop and/or Shop-Vac it out, set it to the side, and reuse it if you like.
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    Re: My pool went green...again

    if it were me I would just do the deep cleaning of the sand and check the laterals for cracks.
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    Re: My pool went green...again

    Well I'm glad those laterals came out and I looked at them a little closer just now. At first I thought they were fine. I had someone at the local pool supply place look at them and say they were fine...then I happened to give them a final once over as I was placing them back into the filter... Here's what I saw.
    So... I don't know what step is next. I guess I replace the whole stand pipe and laterals?
    My pool: ~22.6K gallon. 16'x32' with 8 foot deep. 10 year old vinyl liner (prayers)
    Century A.O. Smith UST1202 56J C-Face 2 HP Single Speed Up Rated Pool Filter Motor, 19.6/10.4-9.8A 115/208-230V
    Hayward S244T ProSeries 24" In- Ground Sand Pool Filter

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    Re: My pool went green...again

    Some Googling and I'm sure you can find replacements for those. I'm not surprised. It's what we say here all the time ... No one will take as good of care of your pool as you. That's a big reason we push self-testing. In your case - self inspection and validation of the laterals. Well, at least you know. Between the many on-line pool resources out there, I suspect you can replace those Hayward laterals with no problem.

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    Re: My pool went green...again

    You're right. Nothing better than doing it myself. I plumbed myself some unions Monday, and wired myself a pump timer and some electrical outlets. Today was fix the filter day, but I will be stalled by this. I guess I'll cruise around with 300 lbs of sand in the car while I wait for this part to come in. I assume this is the best route?
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    I know sometimes I ask a lot of questions and may not take the cheapest route, but it's because I don't know that I trust the previous owners of this house to have done it right, so I like to do it myself so I know for sure.
    My pool: ~22.6K gallon. 16'x32' with 8 foot deep. 10 year old vinyl liner (prayers)
    Century A.O. Smith UST1202 56J C-Face 2 HP Single Speed Up Rated Pool Filter Motor, 19.6/10.4-9.8A 115/208-230V
    Hayward S244T ProSeries 24" In- Ground Sand Pool Filter

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    Re: My pool went green...again

    In the meantime, I think you should be able to keep the water moving on recirculate right?
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    Re: My pool went green...again

    Oh that doesn't really matter at the moment. It's still green. I was trying to figure out why it didn't seem to be filtering and staying clean and clear. So I'll be doing a SLAM after the repairs are done. I 'm hoping now that the filter will be running at 100% it will clear up for the first time ever with a SLAM. I had to shock, floc, and vacuum to waste to get clear last time.
    My pool: ~22.6K gallon. 16'x32' with 8 foot deep. 10 year old vinyl liner (prayers)
    Century A.O. Smith UST1202 56J C-Face 2 HP Single Speed Up Rated Pool Filter Motor, 19.6/10.4-9.8A 115/208-230V
    Hayward S244T ProSeries 24" In- Ground Sand Pool Filter

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