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    Is it time for a new pump?

    What do you guys think? Can this pump be repaired?

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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

    Hello G and welcome to TFP. Ummmm, there's no information in your post - other than the title. Were we supposed to see something else?
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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

    Yeah. I don't know why the attachment to post originally. Rookie mistake. Thx!

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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

    Ooooh. That looks pretty bad. I'd say sure, time for a new motor.
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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

    Welcome to TFP! Add your pool info to your signature so we can better help you with your pool. More here, Pool School - Read This Before You Post
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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

    Thanks for the reply Texas! What would do something like this? I can't even get the bottom two bolts off the motor mounting plate they're so corroded which makes inspecting inside the motor impossible. Everything else seems to be in pretty decent shape (impeller, motor seal, etc. ) I'm fairly new to all this as we just installed the pool 4 years ago. It just seems like I shouldn't have to be dealing with something like this so soon.

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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

    You might be better off referencing the motor's model number and Googling a replacement dry end, all the way up to the seal plate. Just start with a clean slate. That's my guess. We have some outstanding hydraulics folks on this site, so perhaps one of them will have another suggestion as well. Like Pooldv noted, now would be a good time to enter all of your pool equipment info into your signature next time you get a chance. It will help others reference a possible replacement motor for you. Depending upon the specifications of that rusted motor, we may be able to give you some better dry-end replacement options.
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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

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    Thanks, here are some pics of the pump and motor model numbers in case anyone can add any more info. Until I can get some more time to see what I should be putting in my signature.


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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

    Looks like your shaft seal has failed. Usually happens when the pump runs dry for a while due to low water, full skimmer, etc. After that happens, water is allowed out of the wet end and to the motor.

    Has the motor failed or is it noisy? If not, a rusty motor case is just that.

    If you'd like to replace the motor, you're looking for a 1hp round flange motor and PS-201 or equivalent shaft seal. Also will need housing and diffuser gaskets for Hayward Super Pump. Those pumps are pretty tough, so impeller, seal plate, and motor plate are typically reusable. Use an impact gun to get the corroded bolts out.
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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

    Hi pool man,
    Thanks for the great info. Yes, the motor has failed. It trips the breaker every time I attempted to turn it on and the impeller is jammed. I will try the impact gun idea but I don't like the idea of reusing old parts on a new motor unless I can 100% guarantee they are flawless. How would I verify the impeller has not failed also?

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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

    I guess if you want to guarantee the parts you're using are 100% flawless, you should buy a complete new pump. Would be a good time to upgrade to two speed or VS.

    If your impeller has the brass threads and isn't broken or showing signs of wear it should be fine.

    Many people do multiple motor changes using original pump parts. It all depends how much you want to spend.
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    Re: Is it time for a new pump?

    Good call. The impact gun pulled those suckers right out! Looks like I'm back on track to follow your advice and replace the dry end. What all is involved with upgrading to a VS motor? Does this require a whole new pump assembly? Will I need new wiring for the electrical?

    Thanks,
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