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    HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Greetings. I'm looking for advice/opinions on the best way to sanitize my spa. I've been using bromine for the last few years but I'm done. Can't stand the smell and feeling it leaves on my skin. I have a 450 gallon spa from LiteHouse. It uses ozone as well. I'm all up for draining, cleaning, refilling but I want to make a switch. Please help!

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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Order some ahh-some, Ahh-Some for Jetted Baths, Hot Tubs Swim Spas, run it in the tub, drain and refill. Then use this process, How do I use Chlorine in my Spa (or pool)?. I've been maintaining my tub with bleach for a few years now. Works great!
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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Welcome to TFP

    I did exactly the same thing, change it to bleach and never look back
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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboycasey View Post
    Welcome to TFP

    I did exactly the same thing, change it to bleach and never look back
    Did you find the bromine was drying out your skin more than chlorine? That and the smell is driving me nuts.

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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Question, my TA is 330 and I need to bring it down to 50. The calculator does not provide the amount needed to reduce TA with Muriatic Acid. It only calculates how to increase TA. Anyone have a trick or a calculation to reduce TA??



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    Wow! Are you sure about that? That would be the highest TA I've ever seen. Be sure to wipe the tip on a wet towel between drops and hold the bottle vertical.

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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnyeyez View Post
    Did you find the bromine was drying out your skin more than chlorine? That and the smell is driving me nuts.
    yes it did seem like it was... no smell now
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooldv View Post
    Wow! Are you sure about that? That would be the highest TA I've ever seen. Be sure to wipe the tip on a wet towel between drops and hold the bottle vertical.

    Here is how to Pool School - Lower Total Alkalinity
    I've tested it 3 times. The fill water is from a well. The CH is 130 and the PH is at 8.4

    The calculator does not tell me how much acid to add to REDUCE TA. It only works if you need to increase TA.

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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Never Mind. I got it now.



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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    good deal. At least it is easy to aerate a spa!
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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    So, I have my water perfectly balanced. I have started adding Dichlor to the spa. My CYA is now at 40. Last night I wanted to use the spa but the FC was much too high. I went to use it this morning and it was still very high. I went to use it tonight and there is no FC at all. Am I missing something? How does it go from a shock level of 10 to completely gone in 12 hours with no use?



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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Perfectly balanced water. That is what we like! It is fine to get in the tub when FC is up to shock level for your CYA, so 16 for CYA of 40. Hot tubs and hot water consumes chlorine more than colder pool water does. But, 10 to 0 in 12 hours is too much. Which chlorine test are you using to test with? DPD? FAS/DPD? OTO?
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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    DPD



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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    By the way, I added 8 ounces of bleach this morning because it was at 0. I just checked it at 11:00 and it was 0 again.....



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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    I use all 3 at varying times. Sometimes I have trouble reading the color variation at the upper end of the DPD test. Do you have an OTO (yellow) test? I have better luck discerning the colors. It only goes to 5 but Richard320 and I and others are able to reliably read higher levels with practice. Blinding tweety bird yellow is about 10. School bus yellow is about 12-13. Hunter orange is around 18, up around 25 it starts to look pumpkin orange. And, of course, the FAS/DPD test is the most accurate and easy to read.

    Did you use Ahh-some to clean and then drain the tub? If not there could still be stuff in the tub/plumbing consuming FC.
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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Are these all your numbers?

    FC 0
    pH 7.5
    TA ?
    CH 130
    CYA 40

    I went through the same thing changing from Bromine to chlorine... The only thing I can say is I got some, what I saw as crazy numbers, just like your seeing, chlorine would be there then gone... the way I looked at it is something is being killed by the chlorine so I just kept adding until it stabilized..

    I recommend doing a SLAM, this will bring your FC up and keep it there until you pass all 3 tests in OCLT, Try adding and testing every 2 hours, it will eventually hold, mine did

    SO, for CYA at 40 your SLAM FC would be 16, with a spa and how little water you have it may go really fast

    I also bring my tub to SLAM level once a month just to burn CC off
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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Right now my readings are:

    FC 8.0
    PH 7.5
    TA 70
    CH 130
    CYA 40

    Since I hit 40 with my CYA I switched to Bleach and just hit it hard. Just so odd that it is gone so quickly.



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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    I agree and thought the same thing
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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Well, I'm still losing FC pretty quickly but my spa water is absolutely crystal clear!! All the numbers are on point. Just wish it wasn't dropping FC so quickly.



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    Re: HELP! No more bromine in my spa!

    Clear water is good - keep up the SLAM chlorine level until it passes an overnight chlorine loss test. I'll bet with clear water it'll stabilize shortly.
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