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    Question How Jacked up is my water ?

    This is long sorry but you need some background .This is a new pool about 2 weeks old the day after it was filled a guy with an excavator ran over my overflow line unknown to anyone the day after that it started to rain a lot !I ended up with the water 1/4 inch from the top of the pool .The builder showed up a day later cleared the over flow line then dropped off the planet! Water level was perfect after that .I assumed the pool builder was checking on it till he handed it over to me (wrong ) so 4 days later I had a low salt petri dish for two or three days ! I added salt & water got swg going again . I found you guys about 2 days later then added some bleach ordered a test kit which I got yesterday This is where I am at now .

    4/21/2016 7:15am air temp 65 water temp 72
    OTO test PH 7.5 CL 15<30 ORANGE
    DPD test FC 24.5 CC 0 TC 24.5 CH 100 TA 200 CYA 40

    Fill Water CL5 BR10 PH 7.5

    Today I backwashed the filter Start up press was 13 psi added water to proper level added 320 oz of 10% bleach if my pool math is correct I should be at 33 FC target is 28 I cannot babysit the pool because I haven't moved in yet (end of the month I will) The water has started to clear some I can see the sides on the deep end now I will check chemistry again in the morning am I missing anything ? This is South Alabama your always about 10 min from a thunder storm!
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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    Well I'm just starting out myself. I do know cya should be 60-70 for SWG 40 is too low. That's what keeps your FC up. PH is good. But since you Have a new pool you should which your PH it will rise quickly with new finish.
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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    Your CYA is low for a SWG pool, but don't raise it yet. Since you need to "SLAM" your pool, you might as well save on bleach. Your FC Shock/SLAM level is actually 16, so you can let that FC level drop a bit. That high and you're not making it go faster, only losing the extra FC to the sun. You'll need to follow everything on the SLAM page (link below), but that may tough if you're not living there yet. Do your best. Also, would you mind clarifying exactly which test kit you ordered? Thanks.
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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    Quote Originally Posted by texas splash View Post
    your cya is low for a swg pool, but don't raise it yet. Since you need to "slam" your pool, you might as well save on bleach. your fc shock/slam level is actually 16, so you can let that fc level drop a bit. That high and you're not making it go faster, only losing the extra fc to the sun. You'll need to follow everything on the slam page (link below), but that may tough if you're not living there yet. Do your best. Also, would you mind clarifying exactly which test kit you ordered? Thanks.
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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    It sounds like you're SLAMming, so don't bother checking anything but FC & CC until it clears. The more often you brush and add bleach to maintain the FC levels, the faster it will go. Since it's only a couple weeks old, you shouldn't have huge amounts of soggy debris to scoop out. It'll probably turn blue-grey in a day and slowly clear for a few days after. Watch the filter pressure.

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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    We got ya! Take a deep breath...........you are on the right path now with your own test kit. I am going to give you a link since your plaster is new:

    Pool School - Start-up New Plaster

    I am also going to give you the links and such I give to all new people:

    Print these out:

    Pool School - Basic Pool Care Schedule

    Pool School - Recommended Levels

    Bookmark these:

    Pool School - Recommended Pool Chemicals

    http://www.troublefreepool.com/calc.html

    Pool School - ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry

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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
    We got ya! Take a deep breath...........you are on the right path now with your own test kit. I am going to give you a link since your plaster is new:

    Pool School - Start-up New Plaster

    I am also going to give you the links and such I give to all new people:

    Print these out:

    Pool School - Basic Pool Care Schedule

    Pool School - Recommended Levels

    Bookmark these:

    Pool School - Recommended Pool Chemicals

    http://www.troublefreepool.com/calc.html

    Pool School - ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry

    Make sure to ask any and all questions you might have no matter how small! We have all been where you are at one point.

    Kim
    Thanks already done! Chris

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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    How is your water looking now? Have you been taking pics to watch the progress? That will allow you see see it when you eyes cannot see it day to day.

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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    Question if I half my sample size to 5 ml what is my cal factor 1?

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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    Blue and Grey I can see the floor drain legibly for the first time in days

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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    One thing to note, your Ph test does not read correctly when FC is over about 10 ppm, so ignore pH until you get the FC back down after things have cleared up
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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    you asked "Question if I half my sample size to 5 ml what is my cal factor 1? " Yes, the factor would be 1. Okay to do during a SLaM but not recommended for everyday.
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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    Ok since my cya is only 40 I'm going to let the fc start down to below 20 someone said that the target was 16 is this correct?

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    Thanks everybody for paying attention to my problem I appreciate the quick responses

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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Archlight1170 View Post
    Ok since my cya is only 40 I'm going to let the fc start down to below 20 someone said that the target was 16 is this correct?

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    Yes, for a SLAM with CYA at 40, your target FC is 16. Here is a link to the chart Pool School - Chlorine / CYA Chart
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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    I asked about halving my sample size to 5 ml Then I read this (For extremely high FC levels, you can use 5ml sample water and 5ml chlorine-free water (e.g. distilled water); then each drop of R-0871 counts 1ppm FC/CC. This can save on test reagent.) so I still need 10 ml sample ? Or can I just use 5 ml of pool water to test? Confused...
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    Re: How Jacked up is my water ?

    It's still only a 5mL sample. Just that some folks have trouble seeing 5mL in their tube. So by adding the distilled water, it might be easier to see. It's still just 5mL of pool water so that's what matters for the factor of 1ppm
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