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    Brand New Pool Owner

    Just finished filling the pool and had the pool filled by a tanker but it was about 4 inches shy so I filled the rest with my well water. Pump and filter hooked up with inline chlorinator. I haven't run the pump or added DE yet. Here are my first readings
    Fc 0Cc 0
    Ch 200
    TA 170
    Cya the black dot never went away.

    So now what should I do?
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    Hello! Begin the following:
    1 - Black dot visible means zero. Add stabilizer for an initial CYA target of 30 ppm
    2 - Add bleach for an initial FC target of 3 ppm on day 1; after that increase to about 5 ppm
    3 - pH? Adjust to the mid 7s
    4 - TA is high and will probably need to be lowered over time as you add acid. Not a priority at the moment, just keep in mind later.
    5 - CH is normally N/A for vinyl, but you have a heater so you may want to check your heater owners manual.

    Hope that helps.
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Splash View Post
    Hello! Begin the following:
    1 - Black dot visible means zero. Add stabilizer for an initial CYA target of 30 ppm
    2 - Add bleach for an initial FC target of 3 ppm on day 1; after that increase to about 5 ppm
    3 - pH? Adjust to the mid 7s
    4 - TA is high and will probably need to be lowered over time as you add acid. Not a priority at the moment, just keep in mind later.
    5 - CH is normally N/A for vinyl, but you have a heater so you may want to check your heater owners manual.

    Hope that helps.
    Great thanks I am so excited! PS I don't have the heater hooked up yet. I literally just got finished filling the pool.
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    Vision Pro inline Chorinator TF-100

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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    Very exciting! Congrats on the pool! Pat has you covered.

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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    Accidentally added 4lbs of DE instead of 3lbs. 14.5 psi on the gauge. I don't know what I was thinking! Is that really bad? is it ok to post this question here or should it be somewhere else?
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    It's possible excess DE could get pushed out of your return jets. If you were really concerned about the psi, I suppose you could maybe do a "quick" backwash to help eliminate extra DE. Do too much though and you're right back to where you started.
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    What is a "Vision Pro inline Chlorinator"?
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    Quote Originally Posted by pabeader View Post
    What is a "Vision Pro inline Chlorinator"?
    This is it
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    I was afraid of that. There are folks that are more familiar with those, but I believe you will need to remove part of it, so that you don't end up adding unwanted metals into your water.

    Since it's brand new, you might be able to remove it and replace it with a simple SWG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pabeader View Post
    I was afraid of that. There are folks that are more familiar with those, but I believe you will need to remove part of it, so that you don't end up adding unwanted metals into your water.

    Since it's brand new, you might be able to remove it and replace it with a simple SWG.
    I didn't add the mineral canister yet.. It just has the chlorine canister for now in it.
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    If you do a search on our site for Nature2, you will find many posts just like this one...

    Nature2 adds metals to the water, which help prevent the growth of algae. However, effective levels of metals are also prone to causing unsightly stains, and chlorine alone takes care of algae just fine with minimal effort. We strongly recommend against any system that adds metals to the water.

    Nature2 is usually installed for free by the builder, who often gets paid by the Nature2 people to install it in the hope that the new pool owner will spend lots of money on replacement cartridges.

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    The problem with that is it's either adding extra Calcium or CYA along with the chlorine. Do you know which?
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    Looks like the chlorine canister contains CYA. So you will have to watch that and when it reaches your desired level you will have to remove the canister and switch to liquid bleach.
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    A look around here will show that there are lots of folks spending lots of time and money trying to get rid of copper stains from their pools. I strongly advise not to intentionally add copper to your pool.
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    Ok thanks for the heads up! I will not add the mineral canister. Maybe I'll just eliminate the inline tri chlor all together.
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    That would be our recommendation from everything I've read. Might be nice to have, if you go on extended vacation and don't have a friend or neighbor to dose for you while you are gone.
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    New readings after a day of running pump for 24 hours and using the tri Chlor, ph decreaser, and adding shock that came with my starter kit from the pool store.

    Ph 7.2
    Fc 1
    Cc 0
    Ch 200
    TA 200
    Cya 25
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    You need some bleach or chlorine in there to get that FC up. Should be at least 4 right now. Based on your current CYA. BTW we round up to the next highest so use 30 when you look at the table.
    And you're going to need to drop that TA a bit or the pH is going to rise.

    Oh, and stop with the 'shock' and powders and other magic potions from the pool $tore. All you need is bleach and a few other things you can get at the grocery store.
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    Ha! I figured I would use them since it was free. Lesson learned. Bleach is on its way! Thanks again!
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    After adding 121oz of 7.9% bleach here are my numbers after a retest.
    PH 7.5
    FC 9
    Cc 1
    TA 180
    CYA 30

    Any suggestions?
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    Re: Brand New Pool Owner

    Looking back through your thread, I don't see where a SLAM was ever required. In fact, this was a new fill correct? But I am concerned about the elevated CC. That could just be from the new water itself. Your FC is slightly elevated for a normal day (not SLAMming), which is probably good right now. I would keep it that way for a day or two and watch the CC. If it (CC) gets higher or the water starts to get cloudy, kick the FC up to 12 for a SLAM. Hope that helps.
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