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    Auto pool leveler question

    My pool has an auto pool leveler. The problem is the float was not present when I bought the house. I went to Leslie's to pick one up. The thread on what I bought is straight (non-tapered) thread, and the female end inside the leveler "skimmer" area is tapered pipe thread. Therefore, they aren't compatible. From what I've read, what I bought is the standard. Where could I get one with the appropriate thread? Anyone have any ideas?

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    Re: Auto pool leveler question

    There are different designs for the auto levelers. What model do you have can you post pictures?
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    Re: Auto pool leveler question

    There wasn't one there when I moved in. This is what I bought that does not work, however...



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    Re: Auto pool leveler question

    I got that same one at Ace Hardware last weekend when my float assembly broke off in my hand and it started spraying water at me.

    So the issue is that the threads on the end of it don't fit into the water line in your autofill housing?

    Seriously, try going to a decent hardware store and explain what you have to them. They call them "coolers" - I suppose most folks use them to keep cattle tanks filled. They will likely have something that will fit the threading on the receptacle. They might also have an adapter of some sort that will let you use the float valve that you bought.
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    Re: Auto pool leveler question

    Oh, so it is not just the float, you are looking for the entire float valve assembly.

    You might be able to get a PVC adapter for between the 2 different threads.
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    Re: Auto pool leveler question

    That's the issue, yep. I'll try to hit up an Ace to see if they have something using an actual tapered pipe thread, or if I can get an adapter. Thank you!!

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    Re: Auto pool leveler question

    I think you need a standard male PVC thread to go in the pipe and that almost looks like a female hose bib thread for the valve.
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    Re: Auto pool leveler question

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric618 View Post
    There wasn't one there when I moved in. This is what I bought that does not work, however...



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    That's meant for a swamp cooler NOT a pool autofill pot.

    You want this -

    Kerick Valve MA3P2 PVC Mini Float Valve, Tank Mount, Adjustable Arm, 1.5 gpm at 60 psi, 3/8 Scientific
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    Re: Auto pool leveler question

    Quote Originally Posted by JoyfulNoise View Post
    That's meant for a swamp cooler NOT a pool autofill pot.

    You want this -

    Kerick Valve MA3P2 PVC Mini Float Valve, Tank Mount, Adjustable Arm, 1.5 gpm at 60 psi, 3/8 Scientific
    That's odd, because I bought it at Leslie's. Thanks!

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    I don't have an issue getting another one, but that one is listed as 3/8 as well. I don't want to spend another $10 on something else that won't fit.
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    Re: Auto pool leveler question

    As stated by joyful noise, the pvc float is the preferred float replacement for concrete fill pots, much more user/installer friendly than the brass old style flip-n-float your holding in your pic, but those work to, at least the ones i buy from my pool parts wholesaler do, and what your holding looks just like one, the style you hold in pic can be frustrating for a first timers attempt at replacing it inside the pot, to the point of cross threading it, and damaging the threads on the pot, when trying to install the brass float it can feel awkward when trying to thread it in due to the float, linkage, etc, the fact you said it was missing to begin with somewhat indicates the previous owner had damaged the fill pot fitting, making you think it is a thread cut related issue, when it is not. they are the same style concrete fill pots that have been used for a long time, i have a tap, that if needed, can clean the fill pots damaged threads, you wont believe some of the things ive seen, that people have butchered, destroyed, or improperly installed, etc.

    Generally speaking the float wont just thread on, you have to start it a turn or two by hand, then as it gets hard to turn by hand, tighten it with a pair of channel locks, a little more to orientate it, and seat it better in the pot. your not going to be threading this thing in more than a few turns no matter what. Examine the fitting on the concrete pot, the plastic pvc float assembly is the best bet though, as it being plastic, may help it to overcome any imperfection on the pot threads.

    everything being normal, the float you have in your pic should work, they were commonly used for many years in fill pots, until the pvc float came along. that red washer is not used, and that nut should back off to (i could be wrong about the nut, its been awhile since i used that style float)

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    Re: Auto pool leveler question

    Thanks, and sorry for the delay. I really don't think the threads being boogered is the issue, although I can't say for sure. The size differential seems to be more than damaged threads could cause. I'm going to plug and siphon the basket so I can actually get a look at the threads. I'll post a pic whenever I get it done...

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