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    Looking for ideas on how to fix the coping rope light setup

    Hi All, I'm hoping you have some good suggestions on what material to use to reattach this rope lighting. I'm helping a friend with it. We got the pool all cleaned up last summer (it was a green swamp), and just opened it this year to pretty clean water. Very pleased. Had a blown out Jandy valve, and we got that replaced today. Now to tackle the lights.

    The way they work, they are supposed to be attached just under the cement coping edge, all around the whole pool. It has come undone in a bunch of places, and they have tried everything to reattach it, with little luck. It always seems to come down again. Here's a pic of how it's just hanging, and another section where it's properly mounted (for the most part). We were still cleaning the pool when I took these, so forgive the leaves on the bottom!

    Any ideas on fixing this?



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    Re: Looking for ideas on how to fix the coping rope light setup

    Butyl tape may work if you want to be able to remove it easily or clear rtv silicone if removing it is not a concern. You can still remove it with the silicone but removing all the silicone residue would be difficult if not impossible.
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    Re: Looking for ideas on how to fix the coping rope light setup

    Thank you.

    I know that they have tried silicone, and it hasn't really worked well. Not sure why though...
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    Re: Looking for ideas on how to fix the coping rope light setup

    Not all silicone is an adhesive. And now that there is likely silicone residue, not much is going to stick to it I don't think.
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    Re: Looking for ideas on how to fix the coping rope light setup

    So getting out what is there now, is obviously step one. But otherwise, sounds like silicone is the way to go...thanks
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    Re: Looking for ideas on how to fix the coping rope light setup

    What? I do not think silicone is the way to go. I think something more along the lines of liquid nails or a more permanent adhesive would work better although that could raise issues in the future if you needed to remove it.
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    Re: Looking for ideas on how to fix the coping rope light setup

    Oh, misunderstood some stuff and mixed up posters. Thanks for clarifying. So basically need something that can withstand waiter and has adhesive properties. I'd think somewhat plyable and won't shrink or crack or dryout (sunlight).
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    Re: Looking for ideas on how to fix the coping rope light setup

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    Okay so I don't know if anything like this would work. Is there any space you could slip the flat part into? I would look for some plastic ones but just found these fast to ask if they might work.

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    Re: Looking for ideas on how to fix the coping rope light setup

    I'm assuming this is fiber optic. I would go to Home Depot and stand in the construction adhesives aisle for a while and read the various adhesive labels until you find one that says both concrete and plastic. Basically some form of liquid nails. There are different brands all over the US so its a matter of going in and reading the labels to find one that will work for you.

    I just want to point out that the rope LED lighting is not permitted anywhere in the US to my knowledge. I know of no rope lighting that is he 2014 NEC permits low voltage lighting listed for use inside a pool. I guess one could argue its outside the pool, but I have my doubts.
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    Re: Looking for ideas on how to fix the coping rope light setup

    Thanks for the tips and ideas. Please keep them coming. I have no idea about the origin on the light, just that it was there when the current owner's bought the house. And it must have been put in when the pool was done, because it goes under the cement patio coping to a control box about 10' away from the pool. Odd for sure. I'm sure it looks cool when it's all properly mounted though. I was tempted to say just rip it out. There are other lights in the pool too, in the walls, but not sure if they work. If not, I'm sure they could be fixed.
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