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    New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Hello all!


    My pool CYA level last year was close to 120. Now it is close to 80.


    I am happy because my pool for a week or so is very clear. The secret? Maybe because I am trying very hard to balance the water or because I decided to run the variable pump longer. And of course, all the reading from this forum. I learned a lot. Thank you.


    At night I run the pump close to six hours (slow flow just for some minimal circulation). During the daytime is running at full power for 5 hours.


    I noticed for the first time ever something “building” on the side of the tile pool that look like it is white and solid. It is hard to the touch and with my fingernail I manage to eliminate one. There two more.


    I am really concern. I hope is not calcium.


    My PH was close to 8 for a while. Maybe because the chlorine is on the high side.


    Here is my data as of today with the Taylor k-2006C


    FC 9


    CC 0


    PH 7.6


    TA 90


    CH 250


    CYA 80

    The water balance calculator that came with the test kit gave a result of 0.5 in case this is relevant.


    What do you think is wrong with this picture. Maybe that “thing” (I don’t really know what it is) is building up because the PH was high for sometime?


    What do you think about this?


    thank you very much in advance!

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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Is it right at the waterline? Or is it along the grout lines?
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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    If it is vertical, oops, make that horizontal, along the waterline tile then it is calcium. I had some of that about 3 years ago. Keep your CSI slightly negative, -0.1 to -0.2, and it will go away and stay away. Manage your PH first and TA second.

    Enter your test results in Poolmath and it will give you a CSI score. You can tweak PH and TA and see what the number does. Be sure to enter your water temp, it makes a difference

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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Quote Originally Posted by pooldv View Post
    If it is vertical along the waterline tile then it is calcium.
    Put that beer down Pooldv! I'm pretty sure you meant to say "horizontal".....yes??
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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Okay, ya'll got me! We can go with horizontal! Vertical would likely be efflorescence.
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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Hello:

    Thank all for responding to my message.

    It is not at the waterline. It is like 2 ft down into the water. My pool does not have grout lines. I don't know the kind of pool we have. (I know, shame on me). Maybe concrete?

    I will try to keep my CSI close to the recommended here.

    I hope it is nothing that bad that I need to worry about the internal pipes or equipment. So far only two. What do you think my chemical readings? Are they ok or not. Slowly I am lowering the CYA level. Still working on that.

    Thank you again and have a good day.

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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Your test numbers in post #1 were fine. Water looks great.
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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Ok, you need to know what type of pool you have because there are a few chemistry needs that differ between vinyl, fiberglass and plaster.

    Are your tiles real or printed? What does the white surface feel like-super smooth or a little rough?
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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Splash View Post
    Your test numbers in post #1 were fine. Water looks great.
    Thank you. Yes, it is clear. There is a small area where the algae grow if I don't brush like twice a week. I am pretty sure the reason may be bad water circulation.
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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Quote Originally Posted by YippeeSkippy View Post
    Ok, you need to know what type of pool you have because there are a few chemistry needs that differ between vinyl, fiberglass and plaster.

    Are your tiles real or printed? What does the white surface feel like-super smooth or a little rough?
    The top blue tiles you see on the picture are real. The white surface is just a little rough.

    Thank you for replying.
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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Sounds like a plaster pool to me. You know sometimes these vinyl lined pools can look so realistic one never knows?

    Your pool looks great. The birdcages are a wonder, I just wish they were more common elsewhere too.

    Your CYA is high for a Non-SWG pool.
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    Re: New "white" and unknown material building up on the pool wall.

    Quote Originally Posted by YippeeSkippy View Post
    Sounds like a plaster pool to me. You know sometimes these vinyl lined pools can look so realistic one never knows?

    Your pool looks great. The birdcages are a wonder, I just wish they were more common elsewhere too.

    Your CYA is high for a Non-SWG pool.
    Thank you. Last November the CYA was 120. I will do my best now. Rainy season in Florida is already here. I need to replace some of the water so the CYA will get better.

    Thank you your help and opinion.

    Have a good day
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