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    New house green pool

    Well for starters I am very happy I found this site. I'm hoping to get cheaper and better info here than from my local pool store who's trying to sell me the world. I recently purchased a house and it has a pool. I've never had a pool so I don't have a clue. What I do know is that it is a nice mix between green and brown and full of pine needles and leaves. The previous owner didn't open it up last year. It's a 24x17 above ground Kayak half & half meaning 1 side is a deep end. It has a sta-rite cartridge style filter and is currently somewhat covered. My ?'s are how do I start by getting the water clean and also should I stay with a cartridge style filter or switch to DE ? I plugged in the filter and the motor/pump sounds a little rough so at the very least I'm thinking I will need a cartridge and motor pump Assy. With having to put $ out to fix this system I want to make sure it's not a better idea to just buy a new DE system. As far as the water I've had a few people tell me just to dump a bunch of bleach in it. That doesn't seem right to me but like I said I don't know anything about pools but hoping to learn quick. Any help is greatly appreciated. Seems funny to be asking about pools when I have snow on my front lawn but that's New England for you. Next week it will be 80

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    Re: New house green pool

    Welcome to TFP!!!

    Please add your pool details to your signature as described HERE as it will help us help you.

    How big is the cartridge filter? If it is too small, then I might advise replacing (with sand or a bigger cartridge or DE ... all personal preference: See Pool School - Pool Filter Comparison)

    To clear up the water, the first thing you are going to need to do is invest in one of the Recommended Test Kits. The TF-100 is the best value, and since you are dealing with a swamp, the XL option is a good idea. And finally, the SpeedStir makes the testing easier and more fun.

    So, your friends have almost the right idea. You do need to add a lot of bleach, but we have a specific method to clearing up your pool that will not damage anything. You need to follow the ShockLevelAndMAINTAIN Process until you pass the 3 criteria to stop.

    Some other related reading:
    Defeating Algae
    Turning Your Green Swamp Back into a Sparkling Oasis

    And really, you should likely start with some of the basics, before doing much besides ordering the test kit.
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    We're glad you found us as well. Jason gave you all the links and tips already. Have a nice evening.
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    Welcome to TFP and congrats on the new pool! Snow this week and 80 next week. Nice!
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    Welcome!

    You've already got the important links, but here's some easier reading. Just scroll through and look at the pictures. All you have to do is what they did.
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    Re: New house green pool

    Is it better to treat the water that is in the pool using a small pump to circulate the water (pool is less than half full), or actually fill it up and treat the full pool?
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    Re: New house green pool

    I would say fill and treat as a whole
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    Re: New house green pool

    thanks for all the info guys. I'm going to start with ordering a tf-100 test kit and clean the old nasty filter in some TSP and use that filter to do tha SLAM then switch to the new cartridge. Hope it works. But 1st I need to get the pine needles and everything else out of the water. I think I saw a frog swimming around.

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    Re: New house green pool

    The more gunk you can scoop out now, the faster things will go when you get your kit.

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    Re: New house green pool

    Maybe a dumb ? But can I use turbo shock to do the SLAM ?

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    Re: New house green pool

    Not likely. What is it?
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    Re: New house green pool

    It looks like 78% cal-hypo.

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    Wait for your kit to arrive. Then we can better advise you.

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    Re: New house green pool

    image.jpgimage.jpgFound some other stuff I think maybe this is what I'm Looking for. The pool places around me are no help at all unless I give them a blank check. TF100 on its way. Just trying to figure out what I need and where to get it while I wait.

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    Re: New house green pool

    Sodium hypochlorite. Should be good.
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    Re: New house green pool

    Does it have a 5 digit date code on it? It will be something like 16099 which would mean it was bottled on the 99th day of 2016. You want it to be fresh. You can get regular bleach from the laundry aisle also. Again, check for freshness.

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    Re: New house green pool

    12.5% is nice and it is a full gallon! That makes for a lot less jugs to haul. Concentrated grocery store bleach is 8.25% and only 121 oz. I usually get it for 2.99
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    Re: New house green pool

    Got my TF-100 test kit today. WOW I'm now a chemist this kit is no joke. Time to get busy
    14,500K above ground Kayak with deep end. Sta-rite 100sqft cartridge filter with 1.5hp pump/motor. TF-100 test kit w/speedstir.

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    It is actually quite fun

    Post up those results right here when you have them
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    Re: New house green pool

    Ok so I finally had some free time today and broke out the test kit. Not sure if my readings are any good but I'm new to this so here is what I have keep in mind my pool looks like a swap and I've been scooping out pine needles all day.

    FC 0
    CC 0
    PH 6.8
    TA 30
    CYA 0
    CL 0

    any my and all help greatly appreciated
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    Re: New house green pool

    And CH 50
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