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    Quartz and other plaster options

    I know that this topic has been discussed ad nauseum - and I've read most of what I can find on TFP as well. But..... Does anyone have personal experience with quartz plaster that wouldn't mind expressing their likes or dislikes? Quartz seems to be a good middle ground for me with respect to cost and durability and the option I will probably go with. I would just like to hear some opinions to help with the decision.

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    Re: Quartz and other plaster options

    I just got plastered with DiamondBrite and it feels nice and soft to the touch. That said, I would have gone with PebbleTec for richer color options if the upgrade wasn't so darned expensive here (+$9500 over DiamondBrite).
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    Re: Quartz and other plaster options

    I'm leaning towards quartz also - although my plaster guy is pushing for pebbletec. I need to save some money somewhere since I've added on so many extras.
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    Re: Quartz and other plaster options

    Your theory is sound that quartz is a nice middle ground between plaster and pebble. There are lots of people on TFP who have quartz and are happy with it.
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    Re: Quartz and other plaster options

    i am going with glass bead on my refurb
    previous owners didn't look after chemistry
    now the plaster has eroded away leaving sharp quartz edges that cuts your feet
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    I did Quartzscapes and love the final product. Wife absolutely did not want pebble. She grew up with a pebble pool and said its ruff on your feet and ruins bathing suits. I felt that I had many color options to choose from. I loved the look of glass but it was really expensive and I had already blew my budget out of the water.
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    I was going to do Quartz till I went and saw some Quartz pools. I didn't like the molting of color. It's almost guaranteed to happen so we upgraded to a pebble finish
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    We did Pebble Fina (quarts) in steal gray. As mentioned above there is some molting. At first I was concerned/upset because it was so beautiful l for about a day when it was all one flawless color. Then the white streaks showed up they were fairly bad and stayed that way for the first 3 weeks. So much so we had to do a no drain acid wash. All I could think about was all that acid eating my new pool. I kept feeling the surface every day of the acid wash and I don’t think the texture changed if it did I could not tell. We now have a consistently random color if that makes any sense, it has the look of a granite everyone who sees it loves the look. Longevity was our primary driver as mentioned above we did not want pebbles but wanted something that could be expected to last at least 10+ years. I think the only thing I would do different is not waist the money on the acid wash they did before the pool was filled and push for a bicarb startup or at least get them to agree to let me do it without affecting the warrantee. Bottom line yes it will probably molt so look at a couple and see if you like or can live with it before deciding.
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    Re: Quartz and other plaster options

    I believe that both posters above meant to say mottling of the color which can occur with all darker colored finishes. Including Pebbletec and plaster.
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    Re: Quartz and other plaster options

    Does mottling occur with lighter blue colors too? One PB said all Quartzscapes mottle. I also didn't know Pebble Fina could mottle since I thought that was just a smaller stone than Pebble Tec.
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    Re: Quartz and other plaster options

    Darker shows more, but my unreached and thus unproven theory is they all do it just harder to see on a light color. I think Pebble Fina is noting more than quartz with a pebble tech markup I would have gone with another brand if it was less expensive and my PB offered it.
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    Quartz and other plaster options

    I was told that all plaster mottles but it's much more noticeable on dark colors. The pebble aggregate just cover the plaster so you don't actually see the mottling. I'm too OCD and wouldn't be able to handle seeing the mottling so we had to choose a pebble aggregate finish though we're looking at a Wet Edge product.


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    Re: Quartz and other plaster options

    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiesmommy2009 View Post
    I was told that all plaster mottles but it's much more noticeable on dark colors. The pebbles aggravated just cover the plaster so you don't actually see the mottling. I'm too OCD and wouldn't be able to handle seeing the mottling so we had to choose a a pebble aggravate finish though we're looking at a Wet Edge product.
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    This is what I heard from PB, too. Diamondbrite "supposedly" can work without mottling through french gray on the color scale -- anything darker, all bets are off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emersonsdad View Post
    I did Quartzscapes and love the final product. Wife absolutely did not want pebble. She grew up with a pebble pool and said its ruff on your feet and ruins bathing suits. I felt that I had many color options to choose from. I loved the look of glass but it was really expensive and I had already blew my budget out of the water.
    How do you like Midnight Blue? That's the color we're leaning towards.
    18 x 38 gunite, 39-7 deep, 8 x 12 tanning ledge with 8 deep water, umbrella sleeve, 2 LED bubblers.
    2 Pentair LED lights, 16 long fiberglass hill slide and jump rock. Sand dune pavers/coping. TF-100. My build: Georgia Pool Build.... No Longer O/B :))

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheree202 View Post
    How do you like Midnight Blue? That's the color we're leaning towards.
    Love it! We get so many compliments on it.
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    Re: Quartz and other plaster options

    Quote Originally Posted by Helen203 View Post
    This is what I heard from PB, too. Diamondbrite "supposedly" can work without mottling through french gray on the color scale -- anything darker, all bets are off.
    this scares me, we are really wanting to go with the darker plaster . We both really like the onyx . And as of right now it is our first choice.

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    I do have a little mottling but you only see it when the water is still. Even then I don't mind it. To me it gives the pool visual texture.
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    Re: Quartz and other plaster options

    Quote Originally Posted by Emersonsdad View Post
    I do have a little mottling but you only see it when the water is still. Even then I don't mind it. To me it gives the pool visual texture.
    Hey Emerson's dad, do you have any pics? We are considering Midnight blue, and are concerned re a "swampy" effect if its too dark, we're comparing vs Pebble Fina and trying to justify the cost difference between the two.

    Thanx,
    Joel

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbailey895 View Post
    Hey Emerson's dad, do you have any pics? We are considering Midnight blue, and are concerned re a "swampy" effect if its too dark, we're comparing vs Pebble Fina and trying to justify the cost difference between the two.

    Thanx,
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    20K gal 32'x24' 4 bubble free form gunite pool w/ Midnight Blue Quartzscapes
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