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    Pls help me set up my pool !

    Hey guys,

    I have my first set of real numbers for my pool, and I want to be sure I am doing this right!

    CYA between 20-30 << add 28 ounces stabilizer

    FC 7

    CC 0.5

    PH 8.2 << add 13 ounces muriatic acid

    CH 150 << add 261 ounces calcium chloride

    TA 40 << add 225 ounces baking soda
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    Please tell us the targets you are shooting for. I'll post right back with suggestions.
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    I just used the ones in the calculator -- is that OK? It seems like so much calcium chloride and baking soda!!
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    Not exactly, you need to set your desired target levels.
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    How do I know what to set them to?
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    Have you discovered Pool School? Start with these:

    ABCs of Water Chemistry
    Recommended Pool Chemicals
    How to Chlorinate Your Pool
    Water Balance for SWGs

    Post up what you think you should target and someone will help you out if needed.
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    The one parameter that is off for plaster pool with chlorine in the calculator is the TA goal -- should be 80 instead of 100. I retested CH and got 125 this time, and I added 8 pounds of calcium chloride, which should be half of what the pool needs. But I'm not 100% sure on my pool volume, so I'm going to retest it in another hour and see what happens.
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    With a SWG, I would recommend not raising the TA above 60ppm.

    It is always a good idea to sneak up on your target levels to avoid overshooting.
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    OK, duly noted!!!!
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    So I retested CH and it went up 50, just as predicted by the calculator, which was pretty awesome to this newby!! This made me confident enough to add muriatic acid and baking soda at the recommended levels. I though my PB left stabilizer, but he didn't, so I'll pick some up tomorrow, and trim the levels as needed. I am so glad that this site, and the AWESOME calculator and information, is here!!!!
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    Woo hoo! Go Helen!


    Started 5/31/16. 38'x23', 618 sqft., <14,000 gallons, 8' spa.Travertine coping. Raised beam w/3 sheers. Large sunshelf w/3 bubblers. SWG IC40, Pentair VSP, 520 cartridge, color LED lights, Easy-touch, screen logic, Maytronics S300i robot, and Wet Edge Prism Matrix finish (Deep Sea Blue with Indigo plaster). Build Thread: Another in Texas - Cypress Texas | MUD District | HOA Approval | Great Escapes Pools

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    Haha, thanks! Soon it will be your turn to be terrified by chemistry
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    Quote Originally Posted by Helen203 View Post
    Haha, thanks! Soon it will be your turn to be terrified by chemistry
    Is it crazy that the idea excites me?


    Started 5/31/16. 38'x23', 618 sqft., <14,000 gallons, 8' spa.Travertine coping. Raised beam w/3 sheers. Large sunshelf w/3 bubblers. SWG IC40, Pentair VSP, 520 cartridge, color LED lights, Easy-touch, screen logic, Maytronics S300i robot, and Wet Edge Prism Matrix finish (Deep Sea Blue with Indigo plaster). Build Thread: Another in Texas - Cypress Texas | MUD District | HOA Approval | Great Escapes Pools

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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    Helen! Look at you! You are getting it!

    Make sure to read and reread the links above. It will take a few reads and working with your pool before they become second nature.

    Make sure to keep a good log of your pool's levels. It will also be helpful in the beginning to note the weather conditions to help you learn your pool's needs.

    HUGS! You are doing great!

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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiesmommy2009 View Post
    Is it crazy that the idea excites me?
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    Yes - haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
    Helen! Look at you! You are getting it!

    Make sure to read and reread the links above. It will take a few reads and working with your pool before they become second nature.

    Make sure to keep a good log of your pool's levels. It will also be helpful in the beginning to note the weather conditions to help you learn your pool's needs.

    HUGS! You are doing great!

    Kim (TM nope that just means you fit right in around here! LOL)
    Thanks for hugs, I am keeping track of everything, and testing. The good thing is that we have a month or two to figure this stuff out before we even consider swimming. TG no little kids clamoring for a swim yet!!!!!
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    Lol. The fickle weather is good for something at least!!


    Started 5/31/16. 38'x23', 618 sqft., <14,000 gallons, 8' spa.Travertine coping. Raised beam w/3 sheers. Large sunshelf w/3 bubblers. SWG IC40, Pentair VSP, 520 cartridge, color LED lights, Easy-touch, screen logic, Maytronics S300i robot, and Wet Edge Prism Matrix finish (Deep Sea Blue with Indigo plaster). Build Thread: Another in Texas - Cypress Texas | MUD District | HOA Approval | Great Escapes Pools

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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    Hey, just reporting back that I did the full panel of tests this morning and all I had to add was muriatic acid and bleach. TFP method really works!!!!
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    It is SO neat to test and SEE that your water does what the pool math says it will! Now you will NEVER have to take your water and wallet to the pool store! You have us!

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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    It's pretty much that easy Helen. It will be even easier once you get your SWG fired up and tuned.
    Between now and when you fire up your SWG, you should search TFP on setting up pump run time using SWG so you'll know what you need to do. Now the fun REALLY starts!

    For quite some time to come, you can expect your pH to rise due to the plaster curing. It takes months to fully cure, so keep an eye on your pH daily. Dont let it get above 8, or below about 7.6.


    Quote Originally Posted by Helen203 View Post
    Hey, just reporting back that I did the full panel of tests this morning and all I had to add was muriatic acid and bleach. TFP method really works!!!!
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    Re: Pls help me set up my pool !

    Hey guys, quick questions about CH: I retested today, and CH has dropped down to 175 and I need to add another 12# calcium chloride. Is this normal in a new pool??

    Here's what I tested today:

    PH 8.2 <<added 20 oz. muriatic acid
    FC 1.5, CC 0.5 << added 92 oz. 10% bleach
    CH 175 << haven't added MORE (201 oz.) calcium chloride yet
    TA 70
    CYA 25 << haven't added stabilizer yet (need to pick some up today)

    CSI 0.01
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