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    Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    Just finished my remodel on our new house and now I'm ready to start managing my"Green" pool. I just received the TFP Kit. I'm ready to go. It appears that I need to SLAM my pool. So I assuming I need to test my levels with the kit and us Pool Math to determine what my I need to put in it. Is that the case? Help I'm a complete rookie. Thanks.
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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    You it right on the first try! Good job! There are only two things not done yet:

    -put your test kit in your signature so everyone will know you have one

    -take and share pictures of your pool. We LOVE pictures AND they will help you see your progress on a day to day bases. Use photo bucket to share the pics.

    Run a full set of tests. List them like this:

    FC
    CC
    PH
    TA
    CH
    CYA

    Ask and and all questions you might have no matter how small.

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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    Welcome to TFP! Congrats on taking over your pool!

    Run the tests and post your results and we'll see where you are. Also, test the CH and TA of your fill water.

    Start reading here to understand your water chemistry, Pool School - ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry

    You are also going to need to SLAM the pool to kill the algae, more here on that here, Pool School - SLAM - Shock Level And Maintain

    Be sure to set up everything in Poolmath in the Suggested Goal Levels first. There is a link to a guide at the top of the Poolmath page for first timers.
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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    Sounds great. I put the test kit in signature and pics are coming soon. I'll put my test results on here as well so you can help me
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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    Here are my levels:

    FC - 1
    PH - 7.8
    TA - 110
    CH - 300ppm
    CYA - 100

    So basically no chlorine....

    next step? SLAM?
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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Ebj View Post
    Here are my levels:

    FC - 1
    PH - 7.8
    TA - 110
    CH - 300ppm
    CYA - 100

    So basically no chlorine....

    next step? SLAM?
    Not quite....

    If the CYA test reads 100 it could be even higher. So the next step is to rerun that test using the dilution method, step 9. Pour the test sample back and forth as many times as you need to be sure of your readings.

    If CYA is truly 100 or higher, you might as well bite the bullet and do a partial water replacement before you start dumping bleach in. You'll need less bleach to clear it that way. Also, if CYA is 100, your minimum FC will be 7 and your target will be around 10, which is where the pH test starts to get skewed. It's much easier to maintain the pool if the CYA is around 50. For the SLAM, it's easier if the CYA is closer to 30, but I understand why you might not want to replace 70% of the water.
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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    Ok, Thanks. If I don't want to replace 70% of my water is there another option?
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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Ebj View Post
    Ok, Thanks. If I don't want to replace 70% of my water is there another option?
    Replace half?

    If CYA is only 100, shock level is 39 FC. To get there initially will take 11 jugs of 8.25% Clorox. To maintain it will require untold amounts more. What if CYA turns out to be closer to 120? Then it's 13 jugs just to get started! The frequent FC testing will require HUGE amounts of FAS-DPD reagents. The savings on just the initial load of bleach and the test kit refills will buy a lot of water. Check with your water company. Some of them allow a water change every few years without going into the higher-tiered rates if you notify them in advance.
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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    Ok, Makes sense. I'll start draining and brushing the sides of the pool now.....

    So after I refill it with 50% new water, do I start the testing again and use pool math to determine what needs to take place?
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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Ebj View Post
    Ok, Makes sense. I'll start draining and brushing the sides of the pool now.....

    So after I refill it with 50% new water, do I start the testing again and use pool math to determine what needs to take place?
    Test CYA first. You don't want to end up draining half and then retesting it to find it at 70 or 80. This thread title explains it all CYA at 100 after 80% drain and refill

    Once you have the CYA down to something manageable, then you run the full battery of tests and adjust pH and start SLAMming. After the drain and refill, run the pump awhile and brush to get the water mixed well and then test and post the results. Someone will be along to advise you.
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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    oops. Well i've almost drained 1/2 of the pool. I didn't come back to read your last post in time. So since I"m draining it. I would love any input on next steps. Don't want to mess this up. Thank so much ahead of time for helping this rookie.
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    Re: Help! Remodel done now i'm ready to learn the ways of my pool

    You're fine Ebj. As Richard said in his last post #10, re-check your CYA once you fill the pool back up. Read that link he provided as well. The key is to keep replacing enough water to adjust CYA to something more manageable - hopefully at least to around 50-ish or so. How much you drain at one always depends on your local water table and ground conditions. It would be great if we could all replace all the water at once, but sometimes that's not possible. Sometimes you have to do more than one partial drain, and that's okay if that happens. After the CYA is lower, then you can start adjusting everything else.
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