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    Just joined from Macclenny Florida

    Just retired from the Navy, and bought a house outside Jacksonville Fl. Being a previous pool owner, I have some experience however far far from giving anyone any advice. My new pool is not the normal pool. It was built by an electrical engineer who worked with Georgia Pacific. It is 40 Ft long,And just over 20 feet wide. It has a 12 foot deep end and I estimate it holds around 47K in water. Two skimmers, two bottom drains in the deep end, and 24 jets. In the back I have a 2 hp generic motor and a 24 inch around jacuzzi sand filter. I believe someone changed the power equipment after he passed away, because it's very underpowered. I will start a new thread asking lots of questions.....
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    Re: Just joined from Macclenny Florida

    HI! Another FL person! We are getting close to TX! That is a pretty pool (even if it is upside down LOL)!

    12 foot deep????? I hope you like to scuba dive!

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    Welcome to TFP! Nice pool! Congrats on retirement.
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    Re: Just joined from Macclenny Florida

    First picture I put up and it's upside down....well...par for the course.

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    Haha! Welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxcmc View Post
    First picture I put up and it's upside down....well...par for the course.
    We have NO idea how or why that happens BUT it does. IT is STILL trying to figure out why! Don't feel alone!

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    How does the water stay in the pool upside down like that? 12' deep end? I have diving envy. Welcome to TFP, and thanks for your service my military brother - 21.3 years myself.
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    Re: Just joined from Macclenny Florida

    Welcome to the forum.

    In your other thread, you indicate you have a 3 HP motor but you say a 2 HP in this one???? (I have a reason for asking)
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    Re: Just joined from Macclenny Florida

    I bought a Pentair Whisperflo XP 2 speed 3HP pump. It is not installed as of yet. I assumed it had a switch to go from lo to hi...but it doesn't, so that prompted my first of what I feel will be many questions.

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    If you can swing it, you need a larger filter........that will do more to keep your pool clear than the pump will. at least a 30" filter and a 36" filter would be even better.

    The two-speed pump will do just fine but it is a bit too big. A 2 hp 2-speed would have been more energy efficient.
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    Re: Just joined from Macclenny Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh View Post
    If you can swing it, you need a larger filter........that will do more to keep your pool clear than the pump will. at least a 30" filter and a 36" filter would be even better.

    The two-speed pump will do just fine but it is a bit too big. A 2 hp 2-speed would have been more energy efficient.
    I bought a Hayward 36" around filter that holds 700lbs of sand. I have 24 jets and I could only run 1 set with just one skimmer with the 2hp rig. I may have over compensated, but wanted to get more circulation. I wised I would have joined before I started buying stuff....

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    That's OK that big pump will do just fine.....you'll probably keep it on low 80% of the time. The filter is perfect.
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    Too much pump???

    In my continuing education on pools, another question ( you guys are going to get sick of me)

    OK the pool supply store in Jacksonville told me if I use the 3HP pump even with an xtra large filter I will split the filter in half. Needless to say, this concerned me. Even though I have listed my pool info on another thread I will relist here to help the pros (you guys) tell me what you think

    47,000gal rectangle pool (40x20) 12 foot deep end.
    24 jets
    2 skimmers ( 75 feet from pumping station)
    2 bottom drains in deep end
    2 vacuum connections
    Before I found this site I purchased the following equipment

    Hayward Pro Series Top Mount Sand Filter
    36" Tank Includes 2" Top Mount Vari-Flo Valve | S360T2

    Pentair WhisperFloXF 3HP Energy Efficient
    2-Speed Pool Pump 208V 230V XFDS-12 | 022008

    The system that was on their when I bought the house was a generic 2hp pump and a 24 inch around sand filter. I could not operate but just 1 bank of jets and 1 skimmer to get any circulation, seemed very underpowered. Thought I figured out all the math...any thoughts???

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    Re: Too much pump???

    No pool pump will split the filter in half. Either they are exaggerating for effect or they don't know what they are talking about. A 3hp pump will pump a LOT of water. I never run my 3hp VS pump at full speed, the amount of water flow is pretty crazy. I would take a look at getting a VS pump, having total control over the amount of water flow is really great.

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    Re: Just joined from Macclenny Florida

    I'm not sure about "split the filter in half" but I do agree that 3HP is probably overkill. I am far from a pump expert, so I will leave the details to those who are. I will just say that the common theme around here is that people try to buy too large a pump and too small a filter.
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    Re: Just joined from Macclenny Florida

    Welcome and thank you so much for your service.

    I find it hilarious the garbage pool stores will come up with to scare customers into doing what they want. That, *split your filter* is a new one.

    Hope you enjoy TFP. Love your pool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh View Post
    If you can swing it, you need a larger filter........that will do more to keep your pool clear than the pump will. at least a 30" filter and a 36" filter would be even better.

    The two-speed pump will do just fine but it is a bit too big. A 2 hp 2-speed would have been more energy efficient.

    Just wanted to say thanks for the great advise. I finished my rebuild (finally)... The 36" filter is perfect. The pumping station didn't turn out like it was originally planned due to height issue with the pump and the original water supply pipes...however it's working great, and pushes all 24 jets with no problems....now on the pool school!!!!
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    Wow! That looks like some kind of commercial pump station or something. But at 47K, I guess you need it. Very clean looking. Well done.
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