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    Make builder redo water feature?

    Here's what I requested and what I have. Would you make the builder redo it?
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    I most certainly would, that is like ordering a Harley and getting a Moped
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    Wow. My concern about asking the builder to re-do it: is he capable of doing it right? There is such a big difference between what was requested and what was delivered. Hopefully you still have a big retainage that you held back, and you can use it as leverage and/or to pay someone to create the feature you expected.
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    +1^^^
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    Ouch....yeah I'd certainly make him redo or hire someone else. Hope you haven't paid him ....
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    Pretty ridiculous isn't it. Yes, I've held back money in case this sort of thing happened. He's gonna have fun tearing that POS out....
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    Yes I would have it redone also. But my concern would be to find out what was stipulated in the contract. Did it just say water feature or waterfall? If so then you might not have a case. But, if it's much more specific then for sure you do.

    Just playing devils advocate....
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    I hope you did not pay them yet. I would be very upset.
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    I would like to see how you told him what you wanted and how it was written up.

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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    The contract just says water feature but I gave him the photo of what I wanted at the time of the quote
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    That's going to cost some coin to do the water feature you posted verses what they built.
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    I hope he's not real proud of his creation. If he's proud of it, reality might hurt.

    Agreed that it depends what's in your contract or drawings. Did your picture get attached to the contract by any chance? Or maybe if his bid, or the contract, included a separate price in the $000s for the water feature, you could argue that something more was reasonably expected.
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    That is a sad interpretation of your picture. My experience was that natural water features like you pictured are spec'd in terms of tons of material, and they are more expensive than raised beams. Good luck to you on this, because the design is gorgeous!
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    Good luck with fighting the contractor. Was the picture attached to the contract? I won't use the words I'd like to describe the contractor. But if sued in small claims he can just say he never saw the picture. How much did you pay this guy? The one in the picture is $3 to $5 thousand in my market.
    The main thing you have going for you is that the completed project looks like a sixth grade science project.
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    Have you talked to the PB about this?
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    This type thing can never be resolved by this forum. You and your builder have to work out what each of you will accept.

    Those two pics are so conflicting I can't help but think there has been a complete lack of communication......can you restore that with him?
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    So my husband is confirming that even a modest waterfall feature would cost $6-7K based on our PB estimates. And by modest, it was less than your picture. We had some landscaping steps placed in our yard for ~ $4K for reference.
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    The contractor has agreed to demo the existing and start over. This time I'm going to be onsite, pick out the stones ahead of time, and even dry build it near where it will ultimately go. Pretty ridiculous but I'll hopefully get this resolved
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    Wow is all I can say ...huge difference between the two pictures.good luck and I hope it all works out for you. Your pb should be embarrassed to have performed that work smh
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    Re: Make builder redo water feature?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meaty View Post
    The contractor has agreed to demo the existing and start over. This time I'm going to be onsite, pick out the stones ahead of time, and even dry build it near where it will ultimately go. Pretty ridiculous but I'll hopefully get this resolved
    I am glad to hear that! I have to wonder if he would want you to "showcase" his first work? I would NOT!

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