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    Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    What special fittings / pipe / head do I need ?

    Is there a standard ?

    I have no no idea where to start
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    Post a picture of what you have both the pad and the entire pool. What do you mean by fountain?
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    There is a hole in the center of the spa floor and the spa was described as having a fountain

    Best image I have it attached with the hole highlightedspa-fountain-DSC_6910.jpg
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    That looks like a typical hole for a fountain. Can you feel any water coming up thru it, any threads at the top? It should be a threaded hole where you can thread a pipe with a fountain head on it. You should be able to find a head all over the internet. As for the pipe, usually a standard 1 1/2 pipe.
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    If it's like mine it's just a 1 1/2 threaded male/PVC connection glued to enough 1 1/2 PVC to get just below the surface then an eyeball discharge fitting on top. Simple to make one up.
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    No threads in the hole that I could tell when we heated the spa from 40-100 to "break it in " over new years
    I thought should be a simple job - thanks for confirming
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    It's possible that someone broke the pipe off leaving part of the coupling in the threads of the bottom fitting. It happened to my neighbor and we had to very carefully cut and peel it out.
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    so its assumed that all are threaded in ?
    With the spa full of 45 degree water no repairs will happen any time soon
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    Drain the spa water into the pool, then you can do all the work you want on the spa. Your automation system should have a "spa drain" option. It will put all f the spa water into the pool. Then do your repairs and then select "spa fill" option to fill the spa.
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    Havent seen a spa drain option -
    It likely can do it - its just not an option Ive seen yet

    I know the pool has a autofill and a drain so I would need to cover the drain

    Im also a Diver - Might just go get a tank and use it as an excuse to get wet
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    If you are thinking that your automation system has an auto fill for the pool, you could be mistaken. All automation systems I have ever seen always have a spa drain option and a Spa fill option. Take a picture of the control system and we will confirm it for you.
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    There is a fill float in the deck by one of the skimmers and about 4 feet away is what appears to be a overflow
    Its not in the automation its built into the deck

    I posted a picture of the home screen in another thread here
    There is no spa fill or spa drain option in any of the screens that I have seen

    Share Screen shots of your Aqualink home screen

    aqualilnk-home-screen.jpg
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    Go out to the panel outside. On the right side of that panel should be a section labled valves. Then you should see the options, Pool Mode, Spa Mode, Spa drain, and Spa Fill. That is what I am talking about. Your indoor unit is where you want to do this from.
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    Wow- never looked at that control thing that close

    its there .... Cool

    btw there are 2 panels outside
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    Well it's 75 in dallas today - removed broken threads in fitting and bought replacement from Home Depot
    leslies wanted $70 for a spa fountain head
    just the head

    A 4' section of pvc 2 threaded fittings and a cap and drill resulted in this

    i may go buy 3 or 4 more caps and do different drill sizes and patterns just for fun

    may also try using this to make a poor mans laminar jet for fun
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    LOVE it! Do a slit - to see what it does! That could be fun to play with.

    Just know it will push your PH up a little so keep an eye on your tests and have the muratic acid ready.

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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    Well in a moment of late night web shopping weakness I bought the Polaris SPa fountain head
    I think I paid about $25
    I figured it would give me more options
    disapointed
    about half the water is rushing down around the threads
    The whole thing is pretty much cobbled together
    its an eyeball with some plastic all thread and the fountain head. the threaded plastic of lower part of the head isnt "sealed" 360 its just glued in 5 spots around the diameter
    which allows all the pressure to leak out the bottom around those 5 glued spots

    The image shows much of the water going DOWN rather than up...
    Water is a little green from the pollen and wind ...fountain-IMG_2885.jpg

    in this image you can see one of the glued spots is directly facing the camera and the 1/3 -1/2 inch to left and right of the glue is open to the bottom. IN other words at 6:00 is a narrow glued sectioin and another at about 3 and 9
    Perhaps this is as intended and the base of the head is supposed to be in the water ...
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    after thinking about it its likely as designed to let the water drain out when its not running ...

    still disappointed
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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    i wonder if some pipe thread would help alleviate the leaking at the bottom.

    Also, I've seen this one.
    7-230-00 - ZODIAC POOL CARE INC - FOUNTAINHEAD, 3 TIER, WATERSTAR


    I like the one you made---with the cap. You can always adjust the fountain height at your filter to avoid water spraying out of the spa.

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    Re: Spa looks like it had a fountain but I can't find pipe - help me assemble one

    My fountain just has a standard eyeball fitting. It allows for the use of different diameter openings.
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