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    Clarifier mishap and question

    Hello Everyone,
    I am new to the forum and this is my first post. We bought an older home with a pool and this is our first pool. Made a really stupid rookie error and put in a gal of clarifier instead of 6 oz and now we have a cloudy pool. The pool store we have been using said nothing to do except keep the chlorine at shock levels and ph at 7.5 and run the filter 24/7 and back flush as needed for about a month or more till it clears up. Does this sound correct and is there anything we can do to speed up this process. I feel like such a clutz. Thanks for any advice.
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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Welcome to the forum!

    There are lots of things that could be said, but the most important things right now are to let us know exactly what chemicals (or a brand name) were in that clarifier and then to read this article: Pool School - Test Kits Compared and order a testkit ASAP.

    There's more..., but these are the first priorities. Let us know about the clarifier!

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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Welcome and ditto.

    P.S. Now you can stay out of the pool store.
    I'd bet you my bikini you'll never get TFP water from a pool store!

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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Thanks for the quick reply's. Will read that article tonight and get a test kit ordered and will get the info from the jug of clarifier tomorrow. Thanks.
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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    One more quick question, any recommendations as to where to get the TF100
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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    That is awesome! Trust us because we can, and will (if you follow the advice here), help you become not just a pool owner, but a proud, knowledgable, self-sufficient pool operator of a perfect, safe, sparkly pool! ...and the envy of most other pool owners.

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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Thanks MarianParoo!
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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Quote Originally Posted by M&M View Post
    One more quick question, any recommendations as to where to get the TF100
    TFTestkits.net is the manufacturer, you can get them direct or they are available from Pool Supply World
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    Thanks MarianParoo!
    Hahahaha. You may call me Marian! Glad to have an eager new member on board, M&M!!!

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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    You may get it faster through poolsupplyworld.com.
    I'd bet you my bikini you'll never get TFP water from a pool store!

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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    OK the brand name is SeaKlear Natural Clarifier. Recommended dosage is 1 oz per 10,000 gal. and 2 oz per 10,000 gal if necessary. So I treated a 640,000 gal pool instead of 30,000 gal. pool. Oh vey.
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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Whoopsie! lol

    You don't need that hocus pocus voodoo stuff.
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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Yeh, won't make that mistake again. So do I just continue to keep chlorine at shock level and ph at 7.5 and run the filter till it clears?
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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Shocking probably won't help much and may just make the problem worse. The main ingredient in this stuff is chitosan which is a long chained polysaccharide-based flocculant. What would probably work the fastest to add some DE (diatomaceous earth) to your sand filter to help clear the "clarifier" faster. You can see this Pool School article for instructions on how to do that - Pool School - Add DE to a Sand Filter. Another approach would be to turn off your filter pump and see how much of this floc will settle out to the bottom. If you have a multiport valve that has a vacuum-to-waste setting, you can simply vacuum out anything that settles to the bottom.

    Be prepared to baby sit your sand filter. As the chitosan gets filtered out by it, it is going to clog up your filter and your pressure is going to increase. Whenever your pressure rises 25% over clean pressure, you need to backwash.

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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Thanks for the link Matt, I had a hunch that we were wasting chlorine. I will keep you updated and as soon as the test kit arrives I will list those results.
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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    I just got back from an afternoon and evening of Star Wars. What a night... WOW! The Force Awakens!!!

    Anyway, I am glad Matt was able to guide you about the ingredients in your clarifier and what to do about it!!! Please be sure and ask if you have ANY questions about the procedures.

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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    I've never used a FLOC but I think I've read that it needs vacuumed slowly? Not sure but if you're bored, you could start reading pool school. We like to start new members with the ABC's of Pool Water Chemistry. Hey look.... a link in my signature.

    Hope you enjoy the forum.

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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Good post, Casey. Yup. With your test kit on the way, that's a great suggestion. We've got the first two items on the list going; it's time to start reading and learning!

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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    Quick Update:
    Test kit should be here Wed, will post results when it arrives. Using simple kit for now and PH=7.5 and chlorine is still burnt orange.
    Using DE in sand filter per instructions, replacing DE when backwashing. Can see the bottom of the pool so it is going slow but it is going.
    Looks like it could take up to another month or so and I'm now beginning to wonder if it will be worth it to close the pool, will wait and see what the weather is doing once we get the pool corrected.
    Thanks again everyone for your help.
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    Re: Clarifier mishap and question

    If I got those results, I would give it a lot of time since you can, then see if it settles. If it does, I would vac to waste and get it out.
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