Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: New pool problems

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Tampa, Fl
    Posts
    5

    New pool problems

    We purchased a home in May this year and it came with a pool that was built in June 2014. The pool is already cracking in almost every corner, and just today I noticed a new crack on the stairs of the pool. We are losing about an inch of water a day.
    We contacted the pool builder who said the warranty will not transfer with home ownership. However, they are more than happy to provide a quote to fix the issue.
    It seems to me, a pool just over a year old shouldn't be cracking this much already.
    The pool builder will be out next week to provide a qoute. Do we have any options for dispute on the warranty issue? Suggestions please! Oh, I should mention this is a gunite pool.

  2. Back To Top    #2
    Mod Squad kimkats's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Tallahassee, FL
    Posts
    26,689

    Re: New pool problems

    Do you have any contact info for the former owners?

    what about the home inspection? Did it show any concerns with the pool?

    Kim (still thinking but the above will get us started)
    TFP Moderator 33x52 round AG 25,600 gals Sand Filter 1.5hp Pump - 2 Speed, SLAM, Pool School, Recommended Levels, Recommended Chemicals, Pool Math, Chlorine/CYA Chart, TF-100 Test Kit

  3. Back To Top    #3

    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Tampa, Fl
    Posts
    5

    Re: New pool problems

    The previous owners still live in our neighborhood, we could track them down.
    The inspection didn't mention any concern about the pool.

  4. Back To Top    #4

    In the Industry

    duraleigh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Sebring, Florida
    Posts
    30,082

    Re: New pool problems

    If those cracks are structural, it's an indicator the ground around and beneath the pool is shifting. Is the decking still level? Got any pics?
    Dave S.
    42k vinyl and concrete pool, 1.5hp pump, 140gpm filter
    TFTestkits , PoolMath , Pool School

  5. Back To Top    #5
    Mod Squad kimkats's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Tallahassee, FL
    Posts
    26,689

    Re: New pool problems

    I would ask the former owners if they had the paperwork for the pool. SO sad the PB will not honor the warranty for such a new pool. I am hoping the paperwork will say otherwise on the warranty not transfering.

    Take some pics like Dave said............look real close at the patio and decking as well as the ground around the pool to see if there are any problems there.

    Kim
    TFP Moderator 33x52 round AG 25,600 gals Sand Filter 1.5hp Pump - 2 Speed, SLAM, Pool School, Recommended Levels, Recommended Chemicals, Pool Math, Chlorine/CYA Chart, TF-100 Test Kit

  6. Back To Top    #6

    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Tampa, Fl
    Posts
    5

    Re: New pool problems

    The decking is still level. I can't figure out how to upload pics from my phone.

  7. Back To Top    #7

    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    2,769

    Re: New pool problems

    Major cracking in a properly constructed gunite shell (or even in most cases an improperly constructed gunite shell) that soon after completion is a very strong indicator of a soils problem. Either improperly compacted or shifting. Or some other soils problem.

    I would get the contractors estimate to repair the pool. Then i would go talk to a structural engineer who does pools. Yea they exist and there are a few in Florida. You may also want to talk to a lawyer if the PB keeps refusing to fix. In many states in addition to the warranty there is a tort of defective construction that is independent of your contractual relationship with the contractor. But do it soon you don't want to get stung by a short statue of limitations.

    I would not have a contractor fix the pool until an engineer tells you why it is cracking. Find out the cause, fix the cause, then fix the pool.

    If you need help finding pool engineers PM me and I will give you some references.

    Oh make a very strong effort to see if the prior owner has pictures of the pool under construction -- the rebar stage and during the gunite application are most important. Were there plans? Were there engineering drawings? Was there a building permit with inspections?
    22k gallon IG pebblefina, Jandy 1.5 HP VS, Jandy CV Cartridge filter, Fafco solar panels, Polaris 360 supply side cleaner, waterfall

  8. Back To Top    #8

    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Tampa, Fl
    Posts
    5

    Re: New pool problems

    Thank you all so much for the advice. I have an email in to the previous owners. Can you please refer a pool engineer?

  9. Back To Top    #9

    TFP Guide

    chiefwej's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Tucson
    Posts
    2,853

    Re: New pool problems

    If you did end up repairing out of your pocket, I sure wouldn't want the guy who built such a shoddy pool and won't stand behind his work repairing it.
    chiefwej
    Tucson, AZ
    16x36 rectangular (19k) Pebble Tec play pool/spa, Pentair Intelliflo VS 011018, Super II 2hp (spa), Aqua Rite T-15 SWG, Pro Grid 60 DE, Hayward H400 & Heliocol Solar heating, A&A infloor system, fill water w/high CH and TA, 50 ppm borates,TF-100 test kit

  10. Back To Top    #10
    Mod Squad kimkats's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Tallahassee, FL
    Posts
    26,689

    Re: New pool problems

    Chief you have a VERY good point!

    Tampa, That is a very good question that I have no answer to I am sad to say. Okay say I wanted to know about my ground/dirt/land at my house who would I call? I have no idea! I will think on it and ask around.

    Kim
    TFP Moderator 33x52 round AG 25,600 gals Sand Filter 1.5hp Pump - 2 Speed, SLAM, Pool School, Recommended Levels, Recommended Chemicals, Pool Math, Chlorine/CYA Chart, TF-100 Test Kit

  11. Back To Top    #11

    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    2,769

    Re: New pool problems

    Well Chief raises a good point. However, you may be forced to let him. I'm not a Florida attorney but generally one must mitigate their damages. Having another contractor do the work for 100 when the original contractor would have fixed it for free is not mitigating your damages. In your lawsuit to collect the 100 you lose.

    Its best to start with the original guy. get a bid from him and some independent evaluations and go from there. Its a process.

    But first we need to find out the severity and cause of the cracking.
    22k gallon IG pebblefina, Jandy 1.5 HP VS, Jandy CV Cartridge filter, Fafco solar panels, Polaris 360 supply side cleaner, waterfall

  12. Back To Top    #12

    TFP Guide

    chiefwej's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Tucson
    Posts
    2,853

    Re: New pool problems

    If you read my post, what I said was: " if you did end up repairing out of your pocket". If the original PB is honoring a warranty, that would be different.
    chiefwej
    Tucson, AZ
    16x36 rectangular (19k) Pebble Tec play pool/spa, Pentair Intelliflo VS 011018, Super II 2hp (spa), Aqua Rite T-15 SWG, Pro Grid 60 DE, Hayward H400 & Heliocol Solar heating, A&A infloor system, fill water w/high CH and TA, 50 ppm borates,TF-100 test kit

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •