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    No water circulation

    Hello- Water is not floating thru the pump. The pump is running but no circulation. What can be the issue?


    Year built: 2000, 16,000 Gallon, In Ground Pebble pool- 90' perimeter/19'*35'(W*L), Pentair Pool filter, 200 sq.ft. cartridge filter, Jandy energy filter, Polaris 360 pool Cleaner, Clear Vision natural water purifier : Model XG, Century centurion pump motor (HP 2.0, Hz: 60, Type: CX), Jandy valve (JVA 2440), Pool heating- Delta family (120V, 60Hz, 3 amps), Aqualink RS6 pool/spa control

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    Re: No water circulation

    Some possibilities; plugged skimmer basket, plugged pump basket, pump not primed, filter plugged up, broken pipe from pool to pump.

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    Broken impeller, impeller not attached to motor shaft, motor not turning just humming.
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    Re: No water circulation

    Akhil,

    It would help very much if you could fill out your signature with information on your pool and equipment. Please follow the instructions in the Signature section of this link:

    http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...efore-you-post

    The last sentence of the Signature Instructions has a link to get to the editing page for your signature.

    Also, I noticed you're making multiple threads for the same or similar issues. It would help if you kept everything together in one thread so a person helping you understand why you don't have any flow, also was aware that you just had to fix your filter, and that your filter gauge reads zero, both items that were in your previous threads.

    Good luck!
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    Re: No water circulation

    After adding your signature, please tell us a little bit about your system.

    1) What type of pump?
    2) What type of handles and what do they control?
    3) Do you have a main drain? How many skimmers? How many returns? Which valves control each?

    Depending on your system, you can do the following. This worked for someone else.

    This assumes you have a main drain and 2 skimmers. If you have return jets that are independent of each other, you could close off one until the system is up and running and then open up the second one.

    First and foremost, please make sure the system is shut down and the water is half-way at the skimmers. Close off the main drain. Cap a skimmer or both skimmers with Gizmo's. Then open pump basket lid and fill the system up with water and eventually you will see the pump basket filling up to the top. Once this is done, then close the cover. Slowly remove one of the Gizmo's (if you have 2), while someone else turns on the pump. If the pump is working fine and you have no leaks at the equipment pad or the pump, this should prime the system. Once the system is primed in the first skimmer, then remove the second skimmer Gizmo. Once the skimmers are done, then slowly open the valve for the main drain and this will be next. Please make sure your return jet valves are all open and your multi-port is on filter.
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    Re: No water circulation

    Thanks everyone for the reply.. Seems there is some leakage in the Mineral Cartridge and because of that water is draining. I called someone and he told me that there is no use of that Mineral Cartridge box and suggested me to remove it and install a pipe instead of it.. Can I assume he is right and removing it will not impact anything else?
    Also there is no model for it so I am just calling it Mineral Cartridge box. Thanks.

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    Re: No water circulation

    You really want to remove that Mineral Cartridge box. The product that used to be in there is not considered good for long term use. It adds metals and stuff to your pool that you really don't need or want.

    Ans keep the name of the person you called. They were honest and might be so in the future.
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    Re: No water circulation

    Thank You.. Just curious what is the reason of having it or why was it installed in the past?

    Btw I took the picture of it as there is no label on it..

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    It look like this-
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    Year built: 2000, 16,000 Gallon, In Ground Pebble pool- 90' perimeter/19'*35'(W*L), Pentair Pool filter, 200 sq.ft. cartridge filter, Jandy energy filter, Polaris 360 pool Cleaner, Clear Vision natural water purifier : Model XG, Century centurion pump motor (HP 2.0, Hz: 60, Type: CX), Jandy valve (JVA 2440), Pool heating- Delta family (120V, 60Hz, 3 amps), Aqualink RS6 pool/spa control

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    Re: No water circulation

    If that is a mineral cartridge, it sure is an old one. I am not familiar with that one, plus please have it removed. Should be a simple fix. Mine is plumbed in, but running on empty. It only took me about 4 months to realize what a waste it was and stopped using it and converted to the TFP method. The pool stores make a lot of $$ with the new Frog Systems as the Mineralizer is $90, Each bac-pac is $15, but on top of everything, it is a big waste of $$$.
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    Hayward AQR9 SWG 25K Salt Cell & TF-100 Test Kit + Speed Stir
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    Re: No water circulation

    Thank You.. I will get it removed and as he told I think he will install a pipe here..
    Year built: 2000, 16,000 Gallon, In Ground Pebble pool- 90' perimeter/19'*35'(W*L), Pentair Pool filter, 200 sq.ft. cartridge filter, Jandy energy filter, Polaris 360 pool Cleaner, Clear Vision natural water purifier : Model XG, Century centurion pump motor (HP 2.0, Hz: 60, Type: CX), Jandy valve (JVA 2440), Pool heating- Delta family (120V, 60Hz, 3 amps), Aqualink RS6 pool/spa control

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    Re: No water circulation

    btw its Clear Vision natural water purifier .. Model XG .. So shall I get rid of it??
    Year built: 2000, 16,000 Gallon, In Ground Pebble pool- 90' perimeter/19'*35'(W*L), Pentair Pool filter, 200 sq.ft. cartridge filter, Jandy energy filter, Polaris 360 pool Cleaner, Clear Vision natural water purifier : Model XG, Century centurion pump motor (HP 2.0, Hz: 60, Type: CX), Jandy valve (JVA 2440), Pool heating- Delta family (120V, 60Hz, 3 amps), Aqualink RS6 pool/spa control

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    Re: No water circulation

    Quote Originally Posted by akhil View Post
    btw its Clear Vision natural water purifier .. Model XG .. So shall I get rid of it??
    Yes, please get rid of it. You may want to install an in-line chlorinator. Only to be used in the beginning of the season to raise CYA, and/or if you go away for a couple of weeks during vacation. Otherwise, you CYA (Stabilizer) level will go through the roof rendering the chlorine ineffective.
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    Hayward Pro-Series 350 LB. Sand Filter Model # S270T - 2" Plumping
    Hayward CL2002 Chlorinator - Hayward Super Pump 2 HP Model # k48m2n111
    Hayward AQR9 SWG 25K Salt Cell & TF-100 Test Kit + Speed Stir
    Gulfstream HE125RA - 117K BTU Heat Pump - Date of Build is 11-2013

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    Re: No water circulation

    thank you..
    Year built: 2000, 16,000 Gallon, In Ground Pebble pool- 90' perimeter/19'*35'(W*L), Pentair Pool filter, 200 sq.ft. cartridge filter, Jandy energy filter, Polaris 360 pool Cleaner, Clear Vision natural water purifier : Model XG, Century centurion pump motor (HP 2.0, Hz: 60, Type: CX), Jandy valve (JVA 2440), Pool heating- Delta family (120V, 60Hz, 3 amps), Aqualink RS6 pool/spa control

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    Re: No water circulation

    hello-- I have jandy energy filter which is leaking.. The pool guy told me to replace it.. I am not sure about which exact part to buy.. Actually it is attached to a pipe with 6 inch diameter. Want to know if this will be a good bet to buy?

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    Year built: 2000, 16,000 Gallon, In Ground Pebble pool- 90' perimeter/19'*35'(W*L), Pentair Pool filter, 200 sq.ft. cartridge filter, Jandy energy filter, Polaris 360 pool Cleaner, Clear Vision natural water purifier : Model XG, Century centurion pump motor (HP 2.0, Hz: 60, Type: CX), Jandy valve (JVA 2440), Pool heating- Delta family (120V, 60Hz, 3 amps), Aqualink RS6 pool/spa control

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    Re: No water circulation

    What kind of pool guy is this? He told you to replace it? Originally, I believe you mentioned something else was leaking.

    If something is broken, and can not be repaired, then you must fix it. If you are comfortable, then you can fix, otherwise please call someone else to take care of a problem. It is very apparent when something is leaking, especially above ground (not under ground). Please keep us posted.
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    Hayward AQR9 SWG 25K Salt Cell & TF-100 Test Kit + Speed Stir
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    Re: No water circulation

    The other thing is fixed but now I figured out water leakage from the Jandy energy filter - Filter, Energy W/Gauge (# 2888).
    It looks exactly like this link on amazon- Amazon.com : Filter, Energy W/Gauge (# 2888) : Swimming Pool Cartridge Filters : Patio, Lawn Garden

    The guy today told me that there is not much need of the energy filter so I can just remove the cartridge from it and leave it the way it is.. Does this help or I can provide more information. Appreciate your response. .



    Year built: 2000, 16,000 Gallon, In Ground Pebble pool- 90' perimeter/19'*35'(W*L), Pentair Pool filter, 200 sq.ft. cartridge filter, Jandy energy filter, Polaris 360 pool Cleaner, Clear Vision natural water purifier : Model XG, Century centurion pump motor (HP 2.0, Hz: 60, Type: CX), Jandy valve (JVA 2440), Pool heating- Delta family (120V, 60Hz, 3 amps), Aqualink RS6 pool/spa control

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    Re: No water circulation

    The guy today told me that there is not much need of the energy filter so I can just remove the cartridge from it and leave it the way it is.. Does this help or I can provide more information. Appreciate your response.
    I am not familiar with the energy filter, although it seems you can run it empty without any problems.
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    Hayward Pro-Series 350 LB. Sand Filter Model # S270T - 2" Plumping
    Hayward CL2002 Chlorinator - Hayward Super Pump 2 HP Model # k48m2n111
    Hayward AQR9 SWG 25K Salt Cell & TF-100 Test Kit + Speed Stir
    Gulfstream HE125RA - 117K BTU Heat Pump - Date of Build is 11-2013

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    Re: No water circulation

    thank you..
    Year built: 2000, 16,000 Gallon, In Ground Pebble pool- 90' perimeter/19'*35'(W*L), Pentair Pool filter, 200 sq.ft. cartridge filter, Jandy energy filter, Polaris 360 pool Cleaner, Clear Vision natural water purifier : Model XG, Century centurion pump motor (HP 2.0, Hz: 60, Type: CX), Jandy valve (JVA 2440), Pool heating- Delta family (120V, 60Hz, 3 amps), Aqualink RS6 pool/spa control

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    Re: No water circulation

    I thought the energy filter was required for the pressure side cleaner?

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    Re: No water circulation

    As I mentioned earlier, not familiar with filter. They should call it a "pool vacuum filter", which is more appropriate. I use socks in the skimmer(s), which is like a filter when vacuuming. Have 3 set(s) of baskets with socks for quick exchanges, etc. Below is a link I found about energy filters which may shed a little more light.

    Jandy Energy Filter 3456

    ?Jandy Energy Filter?

    If you search "energy filter" on the forum, you will find more information. IMHO, I think the more gadgets a pool comes with, the more problematic things are long term. Too many moving parts.

    Please keep us posted!
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    Hayward AQR9 SWG 25K Salt Cell & TF-100 Test Kit + Speed Stir
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    Re: No water circulation

    thank you domct203 and Catanzaro.

    Yes it the the jandy energy filter- Jandy Energy Filter 3456 which is leaking. I was told that it is of not much use and I can ignore it.. Otherwise I can buy the new filter and get it fixed by someone.
    Year built: 2000, 16,000 Gallon, In Ground Pebble pool- 90' perimeter/19'*35'(W*L), Pentair Pool filter, 200 sq.ft. cartridge filter, Jandy energy filter, Polaris 360 pool Cleaner, Clear Vision natural water purifier : Model XG, Century centurion pump motor (HP 2.0, Hz: 60, Type: CX), Jandy valve (JVA 2440), Pool heating- Delta family (120V, 60Hz, 3 amps), Aqualink RS6 pool/spa control

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