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    Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Finally got over the angst and anxiety of "Will I be happy with the pool finish I chose." Am very pleased with the Stonescape mini pebble in a modified Tropics Blue. My PB omitted from the formula, the tri color bag mix consisting of blue, red and green pebbles. That left the black, white, yellow/gold and abalone shells as the main mix. He then added 20% (ie 2 bags per batch) of the jewelscape glass, consisting of the three glass colors, dark blue, light blue and white. I also had him hand cast some abalone during the final application. The added glass was a fairly pricey upgrade at $800, but worth it IMO.

    Total for the upgraded finish, waterline tile and really nice looking glass tile step trim came to about $9500 for this 13k, pool spa combo, with about 105 perimeter feet for pool and spa combined.

    Water color is great. Actually looks bluer than my camera phone could capture. And up close, the finish looks just as I had hoped. Had plenty of anxiety about the shallow areas (spa and baja shelf) looking to drab of a grey. Not so. Lot of texture and sparkle that doesn't show in the pictures.

    Here are some pics, taken around 2:00 pm with fall shadows putting a lot of the pool in the the shade:











    Also installed the Bulbwizard LED that you can get at Amazon for $169 (screw in replacement type):

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    Pool: 13k gal. in-ground; Stonescape Mini Pebble - Tropics Blue; Connected Spa - dual spill-over; Aqua Rite T-15 SWCG; AquaLogic PS-4 Automation; Sta-Rite DE Filter; Sta-Rite Max-e-Therm 400k BTU pool heater; Intellifo 2-VST Pump; Stenner 45mp2(25psi/10gpd) acid injection; Bulbwizard color LED pool lights; Poolvergnuegen 2 wheel side suction cleaner; FAFCO rooftop solar. TF-100 w/ speed stir.

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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    It's gorgeous, nice job!
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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Thats really pretty, and its not just because I just ordered the same accent tiles! Wish my budget could absorb a pebble finish like yours -- so sparkly!!
    My Pool Build (2015): inground 12K gals gunite/plaster pool, SWG, 2-speed pump, cartridge filter, gas heater, and polaris cleaner (Jandy). TF-100 Test Kit w/ Speed Stir

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    That looks amazing! Enjoy and take care of the chemical balance!
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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Wow! I'd never want to get out of that. Very nice.
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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Beautiful! What are the names of the tiles that you went with? Everything ties together really well.
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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Stunning!! Congratulations! See, all that worry helped! Wink wink...

    Hats off to you for your detailed description of the recipe and costs of your fabulous finish. That's so helpful for people trying to decide on their pool finish.

    And Bravo for being so courageous to go with such a personalized mix! I m not nearly so brave!

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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimslaw View Post
    Finally got over the angst and anxiety of "Will I be happy with the pool finish I chose." Am very pleased with the Stonescape mini pebble in a modified Tropics Blue. My PB omitted from the formula, the tri color bag mix consisting of blue, red and green pebbles. That left the black, white, yellow/gold and abalone shells as the main mix. He then added 20% (ie 2 bags per batch) of the jewelscape glass, consisting of the three glass colors, dark blue, light blue and white. I also had him hand cast some abalone during the final application. The added glass was a fairly pricey upgrade at $800, but worth it IMO.

    Total for the upgraded finish, waterline tile and really nice looking glass tile step trim came to about $9500 for this 13k, pool spa combo, with about 105 perimeter feet for pool and spa combined.

    Water color is great. Actually looks bluer than my camera phone could capture. And up close, the finish looks just as I had hoped. Had plenty of anxiety about the shallow areas (spa and baja shelf) looking to drab of a grey. Not so. Lot of texture and sparkle that doesn't show in the pictures.

    Here are some pics, taken around 2:00 pm with fall shadows putting a lot of the pool in the the shade:











    Also installed the Bulbwizard LED that you can get at Amazon for $169 (screw in replacement type):

    Looks amazing! I have been in the fence with stonescapes. I m going to discuss this type of modification with my contractor.
    This door is exactly what I am looking for!!! Thanks for sharing . I also really love you landscape plants


    Freeform /620 Surface/110 perimeter/20k gal/ Raised bond beam/Baja shelf (2)//Pentair- Intelliflo VS pump, Pentair Whisperflo 1hp// Easytouch, C&C 520 Cartridge, Intellichlor SWCG// A&A- Magnasweep in-floor, LeafVac, Venturi Skimmer,// Mini-pebble (Aqua Blue w abalone shell)//4 Pentair Globrite LEDs//3 sheer descents//Travertine coping and decking.

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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Thanks all.

    Here is some add'l information about my project that may help others in the boat I was in:

    Step trim tile: I chose NPTs Rustic Jules glass 1x1 tiles for my trim. Nice iridescent effect. I was told it's their best seller so it must be well liked. My PB charged me $10 per linear ft (1x1, two rows). I had a total of 48 Linear ft, (8 sq ft). The was for labor and materials. Here is a pic of their sample of this tile:



    My waterline tile is NTPs Discovery Field tile in Teal. not much green in it. And it's a lighter blue than others in the lower cost Discovery tile category. I wanted to stay away from the dark or cobalt blues..too old fashion for me. I had hoped to find 3x3 tiles with some movement or pattern in them but alas, most all were of the darker background blue tile color. Mine is sort of an old fashion look, I have to say. More contemporary would be mosaic glass 1x1 sheets or 6x6 tiles. I would have gone for the 6x6 size but half of it would have been under my water line.

    Cost of labor and materials for the waterline tile: $17 a linear ft. For me, that was $1,940 for two rows of this 3x3 tile...about 113 total linear feet - both spa and pool.

    Mini pebble finish cost: including the demo and new drain covers, my PB charged me $7,690, which come to about $72-73 per linear ft. I believe most PBs charge by the linear foot perimeter of your pool. Per my first post, this was a modified and upgraded tropics blue mini pebble.

    It it pays to shop around. I had bids that were $1500 higher. Get samples, put them your pool and work from there.

    As far as texture goes, even the mini pebble will be a little rough on kids if they stay in the water long enough (softens the skin), and frankly I don't think there is that much of a texture difference between the regular pebble and the mini pebble. Also, the spa seats are a tad rougher than plain plaster would be, but not so much as to snag bathing suits.

    Hope this info is useful to those going through what I went thru. Be sure to take your time. Look at other pools referred to you by your PB. Do not get rushed into choosing the finish. Finally, a lot of info and help is in this forum. Mine it for all the nuggets of information and pictures you can.

    Cheers.
    Pool: 13k gal. in-ground; Stonescape Mini Pebble - Tropics Blue; Connected Spa - dual spill-over; Aqua Rite T-15 SWCG; AquaLogic PS-4 Automation; Sta-Rite DE Filter; Sta-Rite Max-e-Therm 400k BTU pool heater; Intellifo 2-VST Pump; Stenner 45mp2(25psi/10gpd) acid injection; Bulbwizard color LED pool lights; Poolvergnuegen 2 wheel side suction cleaner; FAFCO rooftop solar. TF-100 w/ speed stir.

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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Looks beautiful! Do have any "before" pics to show the transformation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flounder32 View Post
    Looks beautiful! Do have any "before" pics to show the transformation?

    MY POOL BEFORE RENOVATION:






    The old finish was just a medium grey plaster that had a lot of white and yellow scale build up. This made the grey surface lighter than its original color and thus, caused a more greenish water tint/color. Also note the delimination issues on the spa benches - really looked bad. The old green waterline tile and matching green step trim never appealed to me. I did like those little porceline mosaic turtles that show up on the baja shelf. These days, they just don't make many true porcelien tile mosaic accents. The majority of so called mosaic accents are really just decals on a cement base - they look real enough but have no artisic decorative look to them whatsoever. What few true tile mosaic accents that are being sold are rather disappointing (e.g, being one color, poor design, etc). Wish I could replace the ones I had. As my daughter lamented in her text to me when she found out the old turtles would be removed and not repladed in the new pool: "RIP little turtles" (LOL).
    Pool: 13k gal. in-ground; Stonescape Mini Pebble - Tropics Blue; Connected Spa - dual spill-over; Aqua Rite T-15 SWCG; AquaLogic PS-4 Automation; Sta-Rite DE Filter; Sta-Rite Max-e-Therm 400k BTU pool heater; Intellifo 2-VST Pump; Stenner 45mp2(25psi/10gpd) acid injection; Bulbwizard color LED pool lights; Poolvergnuegen 2 wheel side suction cleaner; FAFCO rooftop solar. TF-100 w/ speed stir.

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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    WOWZER!!!!!!!!!!! That is a purrrrrrrfect color! I can see the bling! NICE Job!

    Now.......do you have a good test kit? THAT is the biggest thing that will help you maintain this wonderful pool the proper way. Look in my siggy to find the test kits we use and love.

    Poor little turtles.

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    Wow what a difference! It looks amazing now congrats!
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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    You could have talked to Martin Kennedy about a mosaic source! Long term TFP'ers will know what I mean.
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    Wow what a beautiful finish! You chose very well congratulations!


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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Quick question: did you use gray thinset and grout for the accent tiles, or white?
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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

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    You could have talked to Martin Kennedy about a mosaic source! Long term TFP'ers will know what I mean.
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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Quote Originally Posted by bmoreswim View Post
    You could have talked to Martin Kennedy about a mosaic source! Long term TFP'ers will know what I mean.
    Most beautiful mosaic I've seen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen203 View Post
    Quick question: did you use gray thinset and grout for the accent tiles, or white?
    The step trim tile grout was inserted during the application of the mini pebble finish...the PB just pressed the plaster cream of the mini pebble mix into the glass tile grout lines at the very end of the installation of the finish. So the trim tile grout color is close to the mini pebble finish color. (The step trim tile is installed days Before the mini pebble goes in).

    The waterline grout is a dark grey.
    Pool: 13k gal. in-ground; Stonescape Mini Pebble - Tropics Blue; Connected Spa - dual spill-over; Aqua Rite T-15 SWCG; AquaLogic PS-4 Automation; Sta-Rite DE Filter; Sta-Rite Max-e-Therm 400k BTU pool heater; Intellifo 2-VST Pump; Stenner 45mp2(25psi/10gpd) acid injection; Bulbwizard color LED pool lights; Poolvergnuegen 2 wheel side suction cleaner; FAFCO rooftop solar. TF-100 w/ speed stir.

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    Re: Anxiety Over...Replaster looks fabulous

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimslaw View Post
    The step trim tile grout was inserted during the application of the mini pebble finish...the PB just pressed the plaster cream of the mini pebble mix into the glass tile grout lines at the very end of the installation of the finish. So the trim tile grout color is close to the mini pebble finish color. (The step trim tile is installed days Before the mini pebble goes in).

    The waterline grout is a dark grey.
    Thanks, it really looks nice!
    My Pool Build (2015): inground 12K gals gunite/plaster pool, SWG, 2-speed pump, cartridge filter, gas heater, and polaris cleaner (Jandy). TF-100 Test Kit w/ Speed Stir

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