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    New Pool Build in Frisco, TX

    Hi all,

    We finally decided to build our pool and have been working with 2 PBs who seems to have great reputation in our neighborhood. We have made up our mind to go with the PB who has been very responsive and eager to get our business.

    Below are the details and pictures. What do you folks think? We are not building a spa, but instead decided to get a heater to heat the pool. Also, what payment terms should we agree to from the PB. it seems like they want 1/3 and last payment due at plaster.

    The cost of the pool is coming out to be around $70k.

    Design Stats:
    Pool: 438 s.f. / 100 Per.
    30 x 20 6; 3 6 to 5 deep

    Summary Pool Details)

    Excavation:
    o Trac excavation + Bobcat shuttle (Left side yard)
    o 7 hours of excavation
    o (Remove existing flagstone deck- 363 SF)
    o Form equipment pad
    o Hand shaped walls, tanning ledge, steps benches and corners

    Steel:

    o 10 x 10 grid of 1/2 steel in walls, floor, footers and equipment pad
    o 4 Bar box beam with #4, 1/2 steel around top edge of shell

    Gunite:

    o Pneumatically applied, 6 sack mix
    o 2 Benches/Swimouts
    o (1) Tanning ledge with 6 of water
    o Full gunite equipment pad

    Plumbing:

    o Hand dug trenches with lines laid out flat to minimize settling over time.
    o All connections made using commercial grade, gray PVC glue with 45* and/or 90* connectors only- NO HEAT AND BEND

    Equipment:

    o Pro-Edge dealer warranty of 3 years, including parts and labor
    o Main circulation pump: Jandy 2.0 HP; 2-Speed pump
    o Jandy high-flow, commercial grade cartridge filter
    o Polaris 280 with dedicated HP Booster pump
    o (3) Savi Melody J series color changing LED lights
    o AcquaPure Jandy Salt System
    o Jandy RS-P4 + iAqualink (iPhone/Android) interface
    o Jandy never lube, maintenance free pool valves
    o Brass or Aluminum skimmer lids, available in round or square.
    o AquaComfort ACT-1250/HC Electric Heat/Cool Pump
    o Paramount In-Floor cleaning system powered by Jandy 1.0 HP Stealth plump
    o 12 Raised stone fire pit- built up off gunite footer out of mason block,Capped and veneered with stone to match pool. Includes: permitting, Gas run, ss burner and fire pit screen and glass media

    Tile:
    o 138 feet of standard cost, 6 x 6 or 1 x 1 ceramic tile for pool and spa water line and back water feature wall
    Smaller or glass tiles available at additional cost
    Stonework:
    o Hand selected and chiseled natural stone, 2 thick, for pool, water feature wall and column cap: Leuders Limestone, Oklahoma Flagstone or Silvermist
    o Hand cut and chiseled Oklahoma Flagstone veneer- Ashlar Pattern: raised columns and water feature all
    o (3) 12 hand-made stone scupper; to match coping material: Oklahoma Flagstone, Leuders Limestone or Silvermist
    Decking:
    o 794 SF of Tier #2 concrete pavers
    o Lifetime product warranty- 5 year installation warranty
    o Laid over a 6 bed of gravel, decomposed granite and cushion sand
    o 4 Brass drain caps with network of 4 PVC drain system under decking
    Interior Finish:
    o Standard- Crystal Pebble (Blue Granite or Blue Ice)
    Other finished available at additional cost in the options section
    Yard Repair:
    o After decks pool site will be graded out with 1 load of select fill soil
    o Take down fence during excavation and re hang after grading is completed; bring gates to code
    o (4) pallets of Bermuda sod and (4) sprinkler zones

    Warranties:
    Structure Warranty: Lifetime
    Masonry Stone Warranty: 1 year
    PVC Plumbing Warranty: 1 year
    Belgard Product Warranty: Lifetime
    Pebble Warranty: 10 years
    Zodiac/Jandy Equipment Warranty: 3 years
    Paver Decks Warranty: 5 years
    Polaris Cleaner Warranty: 3 years
    Polaris Pump Warranty: 3 years


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    Re: New Pool Build in Frisco, TX

    Design looks nice!! I just cannot get over how much pools cost in Texas!


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    Re: New Pool Build in Frisco, TX

    Very nice indeed!

    I would caution you to research that in-floor cleaner here on TFP as there have been quite a few dissatisfied owners. Just something to be aware of especially as they're pretty pricey.
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    Re: New Pool Build in Frisco, TX

    Quote Originally Posted by azjoshers79 View Post
    Design looks nice!! I just cannot get over how much pools cost in Texas!


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    Well, thanks to the booming housing market around Dallas area. However, I think my higher cost is due to the heater and the in-ground cleaning system. That by itself is around $9k or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YippeeSkippy View Post
    Very nice indeed!

    I would caution you to research that in-floor cleaner here on TFP as there have been quite a few dissatisfied owners. Just something to be aware of especially as they're pretty pricey.
    We have a couple of large trees in the backyard and leaves will be a problem for us. Hence, the PB recommended the in-floor cleaning system. I'll read up a bit more. Thank you.

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    Re: New Pool Build in Frisco, TX

    Looks beautiful!!!
    Free form pool 90'3" prim, 14180 gallons. TF100 Kit In pool table with travertine top, 3sheer descents, Depth 3.5-5-4, Jandy 2HP pump, Inline Chlorinator, Wetedge Satin Matrix Antigua.

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    Re: New Pool Build in Frisco, TX

    Quote Originally Posted by amandahein3 View Post
    Looks beautiful!!!
    Thank you. We are excited to get started. Just too many decisions to make...

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    I would hesitate to have the last payment due at plaster. I think you should negotiate and have a contingency fee as the last payment after everything is done to your satisfaction. It's the way it's done in construction and I know it isn't the norm for pools, but I would at least try.

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    Oh, and I would also discuss having him sign off on paying his subs after each phase of construction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YippeeSkippy View Post
    Very nice indeed!

    I would caution you to research that in-floor cleaner here on TFP as there have been quite a few dissatisfied owners. Just something to be aware of especially as they're pretty pricey.
    We just signed contract tonight and are going with an A&A in floor system. I did extensive research and talked to many people here in AZ and those I talked to say it is absolutely worth the cost. Especially in our dusty climate . I guess only time will tell for my. My neighbor has two large afghan pine trees that drop a lot of needles in my yard. The needles will not be falling directly in the pool but our windstorms will blow them in.


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    Super design!
    My Pool Build (2015): inground 12K gals gunite/plaster pool, SWG, 2-speed pump, cartridge filter, gas heater, and polaris cleaner (Jandy). TF-100 Test Kit w/ Speed Stir

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    Re: New Pool Build in Frisco, TX

    What PB did you sign with?
    Free form pool 90'3" prim, 14180 gallons. TF100 Kit In pool table with travertine top, 3sheer descents, Depth 3.5-5-4, Jandy 2HP pump, Inline Chlorinator, Wetedge Satin Matrix Antigua.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amandahein3 View Post
    What PB did you sign with?
    We are going with Hauk Custom pools. My sales rep has been great to work with. Over the summer he was a bit backed up, but what I liked about him is that he did not lecture me why I should not get the in-floor system, or the SWG etc.

    But, the real test will be when we start the construction process and see the finished product.

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    FYI- on the Pebbletec website they have their list of Great Pools of 2015 and I think there are several from Frisco. Of course I could have also remembered that totally wrong too! LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by azjoshers79 View Post
    We just signed contract tonight and are going with an A&A in floor system. I did extensive research and talked to many people here in AZ and those I talked to say it is absolutely worth the cost. Especially in our dusty climate . I guess only time will tell for my. My neighbor has two large afghan pine trees that drop a lot of needles in my yard. The needles will not be falling directly in the pool but our windstorms will blow them in.


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    The PBs I talked to had different views on our leaf problem. One thought that just having the adding the MDX drain to bottom of pool for leaf and Debris Canister will be good enough. It did not make sense to me how that by itself will help....

    I think it is a good idea and if it works, great. If not, lesson learned, although an expensive one. There are too many options and configurations to think about.

    I also think that the trick in getting a well performing in-floor system is the way it is installed and/or configured. My PB tells me they have installed many of these systems, so hoping it will work out.

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    We live in Frisco in an all electric neighborhood. Our only heater option was electric. Our builder refused to sell us one. They said financially it is not feasible to actually use. I believe the comments were along the lines of "It takes longer to heat than gas and once you get the first bill you will never want to turn it on again". We went no spa or heater. It limits our season IN the pool, but I still love just being around outside on the deck.
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    Re: New Pool Build in Frisco, TX

    texasgal did you think about having a propane tank put in your yard? We also don't have gas on our street. A few years ago we had a tank put in so we could have gas appliances. It's been totally worth it. Although we went with a heat pump for our spa and pool. Living in Florida we wanted to have a chiller too.

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    Re: New Pool Build in Frisco, TX

    Nice design.

    I have an old friend in Frisco and he put in a pool last season. Seems the thing to do, good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winger 03 View Post
    Nice design.

    I have an old friend in Frisco and he put in a pool last season. Seems the thing to do, good luck!
    Jim, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreynolds View Post
    texasgal did you think about having a propane tank put in your yard? We also don't have gas on our street. A few years ago we had a tank put in so we could have gas appliances. It's been totally worth it. Although we went with a heat pump for our spa and pool. Living in Florida we wanted to have a chiller too.
    Our PB recommended the heat pump as well and that is what we will be installing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreynolds View Post
    texasgal did you think about having a propane tank put in your yard? We also don't have gas on our street. A few years ago we had a tank put in so we could have gas appliances. It's been totally worth it. Although we went with a heat pump for our spa and pool. Living in Florida we wanted to have a chiller too.
    Yes, we thought of everything. Propane against city code. We could have run gas line from nearby neighborhood at $10/ft. We are only about $5,000 away from the closest gas line. IT didn't seem worth it. We decided to see how it goes for a season and then investigate solar. I liked the idea of cooling the pool in the summer with solar, but this season turned out to be pretty nice. Our pool never crossed 90 despite full sun all day.
    17K freeform, IG, Primera Stone Sky Blue Treasure, Pentair DE, Intelliflo VS+SVRS, NOV 2014, K-2006, Pentair Racer, no gas in our area so pool only, no heater, will be looking at adding solar next season

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnygps View Post
    Jim, thank you.

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    Our PB recommended the heat pump as well and that is what we will be installing.
    A heat pump is different than propane. A heat pump is designed to pull heat from the air which means they aren't very effective past a certain outside temperature. Have they installed others in the area? I would see if you can get contacts of their previous customers who have used one and see what they think about theirs. We have a heat pump for our house inside (again only option) and it costs more to heat our house in winter than to cool it in the summer. Terribly inefficient. It might be okay when you are only wanting to extend your pool season a bit, but I would really want to hear from someone who has successfully used one. We did not find it to be a viable option after our research.
    17K freeform, IG, Primera Stone Sky Blue Treasure, Pentair DE, Intelliflo VS+SVRS, NOV 2014, K-2006, Pentair Racer, no gas in our area so pool only, no heater, will be looking at adding solar next season

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