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    Fumes from ma!!!

    Accidentally, breathed fumes from MA. Headache ever since? No coughing now little at first. ?? Burning a little on one side of my noise, all the way up into my head left side only? I think I'm OK. ??
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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    Oh my. So many variables to consider there (amount of intake, personal history, etc), and it's really not our place to advise medically other than to say if you believe you injured yourself in any capacity while working on your pool, by all means seek medical attention. Your health is number one! Please let us know how things turn-out. Certainly hope you feel better soon geegaw. Very sorry to hear that news.
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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    Thanks , I think I'm OK, just headache and burning a little bit in sinuse on left side. I did not get much. Wind shifted on me. Gonna rest and take alive.
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    That stuff is nasty. I've had it hit me too and had to think twice about taking my next breath. I'm glad you are doing ok. If in doubt though, take care of yourself first and see an expert. You may also want to check the bottle for a contact the number in case they have customer representative who may have some specific safety information for you to consider. Just a thought. Rest and get well for us!
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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    TY! After storm came in, so far 4 1/2" of rain in and hour!!!! Pool is running over now!!!
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    What? Send that rain down here to San Antonio!
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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    I agree with the general sentiment - if you feel sickened by it and symptoms persist, the appropriate course of action is to see your doctor or local urgent care facility. No one on TFP can or should give medical advice (unless they are a doctor and even then it's not advisable) and no one should ever seek urgent care from the Internet.

    One thing to remember is that the odor threshold for MA is very low, ~ 2-5ppm. The threshold at which actual physical harm is measured for MA is typically in minutes (30min or 1-hr continuos exposure) and at concentration very much higher than the odor threshold (100's to 1000's of ppm). So, a brief exposure to MA fumes in an open outdoor environment with fresh air has a low probability of causing any harm. That's not to say you still won't get some lingering effect like stinging mucous membranes or a headache, just that your chances of developing any chronic harm are quite low.

    I've whiffed more than enough acid vapor in my previous work life and I certainly don't like the smell of MA. But it's probably the least harmful chemical I have ever been exposed to. I actually find ammonia based household cleaners and lye-based oven cleaners (Easy-Off, etc) to be way more irritating to work with and those are marketed for indoor use!!


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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    Thanks your right. But I am fine I believe. But thank you very much. Everyone here are very nice, smart and very helpful. If I need med. Att I'll go. Just sharing.
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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    Do you think I should (when rain stops) drain pool back to normal 41"?
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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by geegaw View Post
    Do you think I should (when rain stops) drain pool back to normal 41"?
    Yes. And remember, all that water you are pumping out is taking your chemicals with it.

    If it overflowed for a while and you also have to pump more out do a complete battery of tests including CYA to see where you stand.
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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    Okie-dokie thanks!
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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    I would head over to an ear, nose and throat doctor just to check it out. That's their specialty. Inflammation could lead to other things, like an infection. A sinus infection almost killed me when I was a kid, and put me in the hospital for 2 1/2 weeks.

    I got muriatic acid fumes in my eyes a few weeks ago, and burned the outer layer. I had a respirator on, which didn't help me avoid the fumes for my eyes. The doctor gave me some drops to use for a week. Not fun. I wear air tight goggles now, and the respirator. I also be sure I am perpendicular to the wind now, although that's no guaranty, since wind can shift. I definitely keep it at arms distance. You just can't win with that stuff.
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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    Thanks Michael,
    But other than slight headache I'm really OK.
    But you're right, those fumes are awful!!

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    Thanks Tim. All is better now. The advice TFP gives us awesome!!
    Everything INTEX, 20 x 48 , AG, 8362 gal. although its only 90%full. well water, pump 2500gph intex, bleach 8.25, and Taylor test kit.

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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    Being able to smell the fumes and notice the irritation has a plus side in that it has you pull away from those fumes making it less likely for them to linger near your eyes. So as Michael noted, if one goes the route of using a respirator, they must use full-face protection to include their eyes. If not using a respirator, then safety goggles are recommended since splashing acid into the eyes can lead to blindness.
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    Re: Fumes from ma!!!

    This is true. Thank you!!
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