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    Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    I had an HTH kit which in recent weeks has indicated several times the CYA was not even reaching 20. After letting the pool sit for a few days due to being busy, and having had a CYA read of 10 Last night, I added 4 lbs of clorox granular pool stabilizer which i found last night at Lowe's.
    This morning's tests are as follows:
    CYA 53
    FC .6
    CC 2
    pH 7 (last night before the stabilizer add, the pH was 7.4)

    when i put this math into the pool calculator today, and targeting for 20 FC based on a CYA of 53, I find I need to add 6 bottles of the great value 121 oz, 8.25% bleach.

    Pool size is 16X32 rectangle, 3 ft shallow, 9 feet deep. (approx 25,000 gallons).

    Should I proceed with the adding of the bleach? or do any of the other #s cause for concern before I start?

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    Re: Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    That's probably very close. I used 24K as a gallon size on the calculator and came-up with 5.5 gallons of bleach. If you're going to adjust the pH up slightly, do it before adding the bleach. Be careful of the CYA. Remember what you added last night won't show-up on the tests for about a week.
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    Re: Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    Thank you so much for the quick reply.
    On the CYA... I clearly raised it significantly overnight. When a week passes, should I expect it to be higher or lower than the read I got approx 9h after administering it? It was clorox granuals and I added it very slowly into the skimmer. My pressure was unaffected. I kept checking that.
    I would not expect it to go up, just based on the instructions on the bottle regarding the recommended ratios to achieve the desired ppm. It would have prescribed too much based on gallons.
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    Re: Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    Typically, granules (I've never used the Clorox brand) will fully dissolve in about 24-48 hours. But then it still takes a few days for that dissolved stabilizer to actually show-up and raise your CYA tests. The only stabilizer that will record quite quickly is the liquid form, but it about 2-3 times the cost as granules.
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    Re: Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    Quote Originally Posted by tea View Post
    I had an HTH kit which in recent weeks has indicated several times the CYA was not even reaching 20. After letting the pool sit for a few days due to being busy, and having had a CYA read of 10 Last night, I added 4 lbs of clorox granular pool stabilizer which i found last night at Lowe's.
    This morning's tests are as follows:
    CYA 53
    FC .6
    CC 2
    pH 7 (last night before the stabilizer add, the pH was 7.4)

    when i put this math into the pool calculator today, and targeting for 20 FC based on a CYA of 53, I find I need to add 6 bottles of the great value 121 oz, 8.25% bleach.

    Pool size is 16X32 rectangle, 3 ft shallow, 9 feet deep. (approx 25,000 gallons).

    Should I proceed with the adding of the bleach? or do any of the other #s cause for concern before I start?
    How are you adding the granular CYA? When I add granular CYA with the sock method it takes a day or 3 to fully dissolve, and about 3-4 days after that to fully register on my test.

    Also, how are you arriving at 53ppm? Which HTH kit are you using?

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    edit: If you are using the K2006 for the CYA test and are somewhere between 50-60 on the scale it would be best to use CYA of 60ppm for your FC calculations.
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    Re: Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    The instruction on the stabilizer was to slowly add to the skimmer. That is what I did.
    The 53 was from the k-2006 kit, based on reading it a bit over 50, below 60.

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    Re: Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    Okay, well, you may want to just watch the CYA for now and check it in about 5 -6 days. You may find that it will be higher than 53, maybe closer to 60 or so. In your area, and now that it will be cooling-off in the next few weeks, I don't think you need to go any higher. But just keep an eye on it. If it over-shoots really high after a week, let us know.
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    Re: Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    I tested again after approx 1 hr 15 mins.
    FC is 25
    CYA is maybe up a bit, closer to 60. The dot test seems iffy and I fear I may look too hard for it.

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    Re: Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    Those two numbers (FC 25 and CYA 60) go well together for a SLAM per the Pool School - Chlorine / CYA Chart. If you find after a couple days or more that the CYA is still climbing, then you'll have to increase the FC accordingly, but you seem to be on the right track now. Biggest thing to do now is continue to maintain that higher FC SLAM level until you pass all 3 SLAM criteria.

    The CYA test - yeah, it can be tough sometimes and mess with your eyes. After the first test, you can pour the mixed solution from the skinny view tube back to the mixing bottle, shake, and do the same test a second, third, or fourth time to instill consistency in your technique, become more comfortable with the testing, and validate the CYA reading.
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    Re: Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    I posted over in the balancing forum, as my CYA is today reading at 80. I hope that is temporary?? This is really frustrating and I don't know if I should proceed or stop.
    I was doing well, Friday into saturday morning, keeping the FC over 25. I think I see some lightening and clearing, but today's CYA measurement is worrying.

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    Re: Looking to start SLAM, used K-2006 for first time - please review

    CYA doesn't dissipate. The only way to lower it is with water exchange.

    If that CYA reading is correct, you now need a shock FC level of 31ppm.

    Are you taking the CYA reading outside, on a sunny day with your back to the sun with the vial at waist level?

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