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    Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    Getting ready to set up electrical today, still debating incandescent vs LED, builder says 600 -700 to upgrade to Jandy LED. Is that a reasonable price for a new build, Is it worth it?
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    That seems about right. How many lights is that upgrade price for? I put LEDs in when I built our pool and I love them. I have them turn on every night for a couple hours via automation for ambiance. It is nice to have them change colors. An LED won't be as bright as an incandescent so if you have one incandescent in your pool, I'd put in two LEDs.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    The price sounds about right.

    Some folks like LEDs and some dont, so its pretty much a personal thing.

    A couple of big positives about them, is they use hardly any electricity
    LEDs do not attract bugs like incandescent lights do. I found this in iteself to be worth the money of switching over.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    Great points! Didn't know about the bugs, that alone would be a great deal!

    Thanks LED it is.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    Quote Originally Posted by TriPool View Post
    Great points! Didn't know about the bugs, that alone would be a great deal!

    Thanks LED it is.
    I haven't had mine installed yet but I wanted to say that the price is what I paid. I got 2 for $1200. The other reason we got them was my daughter wanted "rainbow" lights haha.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Divin Dave View Post

    A couple of big positives about them, is they use hardly any electricity
    LEDs do not attract bugs like incandescent lights do. I found this in iteself to be worth the money of switching over.
    We were considering only incandescent, but this is very persuasive. Have you experienced firsthand the difference in bug attraction between the two? Otherwise, in our situation, I'm not sure the added cost would be worth it.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    The only thing i would add is the ability to change the colors is super cool and the Cobalt Blue in the pool and Caribbean Blue in the spa is very pretty! Not only do LEDs last longer and take less electricity (I think) its also an ambiance thing. To me its like having dimmers in your house - although we are kinda crazy and have the Phillips Hue lights downstairs as we like the different colors and the ability to control our house lights from our phones. I say go with LED's but its not my $$$$
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    I paid $600 to upgrade to the Jandy watercolor and love it. Get it or you will regret it the first time you see one in somebody else's pool.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    I think I was charged more to upgrade than that - but I can't remember. I like them - I like being able to change the colors. But for me it isn't as fancy as I had imagined it in my head. I have 2 in my pool and 1 in my spa - the spa - is KNOCKOUT when they are on - but the pool - even with 2 isn't as bright as I was thinking it would be. I would probably do it again - but if I HAD to cut costs - it wouldn't kill me to cut it.

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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    We have 2 in the pool along with a color LED bubbler light and they are great. It makes swimming at night really relaxing.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    Just did a quick basic internet search and it looks like the LED light retails for $600 to $700. An incandescent is around $150 to $200. I am going to assume you already have the incandescent in you contract. If that's the case your builder is actually charging you for the built in price of the incandescent plus the retail up charge on the LED. I would ask them if they can meet you in the middle and do the LED for an additional $500 or $550. I have found that asking costs you nothing worst thing they can say is no, but not asking can be expensive.

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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    On some of the setups, the bulbs are interchangeable. So if you wanted to upgrade later, you can switch out an incandescent for LED bulb using the same niche.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    Yes I do have first hand experience with this. When I built my pool I had a 500W incandescent bulb in it. The bugs were killin me. I retrofitted it to LED after about 6 months (not because of bugs, but because I wanted the color changing)and instantly noticed within an hour, the lack of swarms of bugs. This was a very nice surprise

    I wont say there were NO bugs, but the infestation of them was serously squashed.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamieP View Post
    We were considering only incandescent, but this is very persuasive. Have you experienced firsthand the difference in bug attraction between the two? Otherwise, in our situation, I'm not sure the added cost would be worth it.
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    This is what I did. Just swapped bulbs.
    the 120V LED bulb goes for about 300.00

    Quote Originally Posted by JamieP View Post
    On some of the setups, the bulbs are interchangeable. So if you wanted to upgrade later, you can switch out an incandescent for LED bulb using the same niche.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    I notice that the Jandy models I see online have a stainless steel face ring.

    Will that be OK with a salt water system ?

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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Divin Dave View Post

    I wont say there were NO bugs, but the infestation of them was serously squashed.



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    This is what I did. Just swapped bulbs.
    the 120V LED bulb goes for about 300.00
    .....NO bugs.....seriously squashed. LOL!!
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?


    pun intended.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlahoutex View Post
    .....NO bugs.....seriously squashed. LOL!!
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    I like your sense of humor!
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    I underestimated how much I personally would enjoy our LED's. They're awesome. They were $1,100 for two.

    Yes, few bugs. Many fewer than others pools with incandescent.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    I also paid $600 a light. Seems to be the going rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by albert436 View Post
    I notice that the Jandy models I see online have a stainless steel face ring.

    Will that be OK with a salt water system ?
    Mine look like the day they were new. Pool installed August 2013. And my pool has been running ~4,500ppm salt for most of that time. I recently lowered it to 4,000ppm.
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    Re: Should I upgrade to Jandy watercolor LED from incandescent?

    Thanks JV 92, good info !

    I guess the standard regular lights are around $75, so the $600 is an upgrade all right.

    Could do it later, I'll have experience after replacing the old one that is in there now.

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