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    Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to strainer?

    I have a Pentair centrifugal pump. We have beautiful palms around the pool. About once a month I need to open up the Pentair pump and and pull out a tiny wad of palm fibers that get stuck in the center part of the impeller. It got so bad when we first moved in that the pump started to cavitate, be cause it was being starved for water on the input side. Since then I can recognize when it's getting clogged.

    I have several points (leaf filter, skimmer, and pump strainer) that block debris from getting to the pump suction side, but these little fibers seem to get through somehow. Here is a link to the pump on Amazon that shows the pump and strainer setup.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...K5VVZA3VHLAA2M

    I'm thinking about adding fine screen to the pump strainer to block the fibers getting to the impeller. There is rarely anything that gets stopped by the strainer.

    Any suggestions of screen mesh to use?

    Any downsides to what I'm thinking?
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    Try a skimmer sock. I use a one gallon paint strainer.
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    This: Skimmer Sock/Nylon Illustrated

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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    I have palms around my pool, and have never had the problem. I have a leaf canister just before my pump that I keep a ladies knee high in and my skimmers both have Home Depot paint strainers In them. That seems to catch a lot before the pump and filter. If you use knee highs, be sure to clean or replace them regularly or you will starve the water from the pump.
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    Quote Originally Posted by chiefwej View Post
    I have palms around my pool, and have never had the problem. I have a leaf canister just before my pump that I keep a ladies knee high in and my skimmers both have Home Depot paint strainers In them. That seems to catch a lot before the pump and filter. If you use knee highs, be sure to clean or replace them regularly or you will starve the water from the pump.
    Awesome suggestions everyone. Sounds like paint strainers (on the skimmer basket and leaf canister) and knee high hose (in the pump strainer) to the rescue. I like the idea of two different levels of filtering... I will by them this weekend and see how it works... Next time I clean it out I'll add pictures...
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    I once asked about putting skimmer sock into the pump basket and it was strongly discouraged. Skimmer socks (or paint strainer) belong in the skimmers only.
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    I would not recommend putting any type of strainer / sock in the pump basket.
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320 View Post
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    Don't try using anything in the pump basket. I have a separate leaf canister as part of an infloor cleaning system ahead of the pump. That's where I use knee highs. Otherwise you can put them in the skimmers, but that doesn't solve fibers picked up by a main drain.
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    Thanks for the continued suggestions. I went with the http://www.homedepot.com/p/Trimaco-1...36WF/202061359 Home Depot paint sock in the skimmer and leaf collector on my vacuum. Nothing in the pump strainer. We'll see how that does. Thanks for the awesome feedback.
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    Quote Originally Posted by Trebacz View Post
    Thanks for the continued suggestions. I went with the http://www.homedepot.com/p/Trimaco-1...36WF/202061359 Home Depot paint sock in the skimmer and leaf collector on my vacuum. Nothing in the pump strainer. We'll see how that does. Thanks for the awesome feedback.
    This is the same strainer i use in my skimmer. My pool is surrounded by pine trees and before using the strainer i was always cleaning out pine needles out of the pump basket. since using the strainer i never have to clean out the pump basket
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    Just wanted to update on this thread after a few months. The paint strainers from Home Depot work great. Since using them, I have no palm fibers getting stuck in the pump impeller. I'm amazed at how much sand they also catch, before it gets to the pump. Thanks for all the great suggestions.
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    Quote Originally Posted by Trebacz View Post
    Just wanted to update on this thread after a few months. The paint strainers from Home Depot work great. Since using them, I have no palm fibers getting stuck in the pump impeller. I'm amazed at how much sand they also catch, before it gets to the pump. Thanks for all the great suggestions.
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    I've found something even better than the paint strainers. This filters even finer and at $8.00 per 100, is very inexpensive to use and dispose. This is by far the best solution I have found yet for a strainer sock in my skimmer. Give them a try and see if you don't agree.

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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    The Home Depot paint strainers lasted about a year. I just got my first tear in one just this week. They did effectively block the palm tree strands and sand from getting to my pump (used one on the skimmer basket and leaf collector on my vacuum). Never had to open the pump to clean all year. The only complaint about them is the elastic disappeared after a few months, so I just tucked it into the leaf collector top and it worked. The one on the skimmer was tight enough it hasn't mattered.

    Now I'm going to try the Disposable Hair Nets from Amazon - they are only $5.78 for 100. They are certainly cheaper (and finer isn't bad either) and hope that they last at least a few months.
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    Re: Palm Tree Fibers Clog Centrifugal Pump About Once a Month - Add screen to straine

    Quote Originally Posted by Trebacz View Post
    The Home Depot paint strainers lasted about a year. I just got my first tear in one just this week. They did effectively block the palm tree strands and sand from getting to my pump (used one on the skimmer basket and leaf collector on my vacuum). Never had to open the pump to clean all year. The only complaint about them is the elastic disappeared after a few months, so I just tucked it into the leaf collector top and it worked. The one on the skimmer was tight enough it hasn't mattered.

    Now I'm going to try the Disposable Hair Nets from Amazon - they are only $5.78 for 100. They are certainly cheaper (and finer isn't bad either) and hope that they last at least a few months.
    At $6 per hundred I change them once a week or even every couple days.
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