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    new pool this year

    We put in a 22 x 52 Intex pool. I am used to Bacquacil and trying chlorine this year. I do not have enough CYA in the water, the water is too hard, 1000. I need a different test kit not the strips correct?
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    Re: new pool this year

    Welcome to TFP Heavenrain. The recommended test kits are the TF-100 or the Taylor K-2006.
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    Re: new pool this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenrain View Post
    We put in a 22 x 52 Intex pool. I am used to Bacquacil and trying chlorine this year. I do not have enough CYA in the water, the water is too hard, 1000. I need a different test kit not the strips correct?
    We have a winner!

    That's no kiddie pool you have there. that's pushing 11000 gallons! It needs a grown-up test kit for sure.

    Test strips are generally only good at testing pH. Everything else is all over the place. If you instinctively set the strip on the plastic chart, surface tension causes the water to bleed across pads and mess up things. High FC can bleach out the dyes. If you wait too little or too long, the results will be off. And they generally make enormous jumps. 0-100-200-400-1000. Gimme a break! What if you're at 150, or 300 or 600? Which color will it match?

    Taylor K-2006 is generally cheapest and sometimes people get free shipping off Amazon. But value-wise, the TF100 is a better deal. It has more of the reagents you'll use the most. Pool School - Test Kits Compared

    If you keep careful track of how much of each chemical you've been adding, you can use Effects of Adding Chemicals to calculate roughy where your CYA level is. It's at the bottom of poolmath. Be sure to put the pool volume (Intex says 10,472 gallons) at the top.
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    Thank you! I haven't put in any stabilizer. I think that is my problem. I will pick up a kit or order one tomorrow.

    What about the hardness of the water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenrain View Post
    Thank you! I haven't put in any stabilizer. I think that is my problem. I will pick up a kit or order one tomorrow.

    What about the hardness of the water?
    If you know you're at zero CYA, you can use poolmath to get the dose. Conveniently for you, a four pound canister of stabilizer will raise your CYA to about 46. Use the sock method to add it.

    Hardness? What can you do? If you try replacing water, you'll be replacing it with the same fill water you used initially. And maybe you're not really at 1000. I'd seriously doubt it unless you're on a well and your area is known for its limestone caves. Your showerheads and drip coffeemaker would be a solid chunk of white crud if that were the case. Wait for a proper test kit, then deal with facts. High Calcium Hardness (strips only tell total hardness) can be managed up to around 800. I do it all the time.

    And just so you know, the K-2005 DPD test kit is not the same as the K-2006 FAS-DPD test kit, no matter what the pool store clerk tells you. If it doesn't use powder to measure FC, it's not the test kit you want.
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    Re: new pool this year

    Thanks.
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    Re: new pool this year

    Ok hardness is 600, ph 8 and ta is 2800. Advice?
    I did buy CA when I was in town.
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    Best to reduce that PH to the mid 7s using muriatic acid per the calculator. Somewhere between 7.2-7.8. I suspect your TA may not be 2800. Usually we see it from 70-150 give or take some. But 2800 would be incredibly high. A TFP record perhaps? Maybe consider double-checking the testing method (# of drops or math used)?

    Hope this helps.
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    I didn't buy MA. Can I use minus ph? I do have some of that. I can recheck the TA. I am sure I have or will make some mistakes.
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    Yes, PH down is probably a powder version of acid. Just follow the directions on the container. I believe sometimes the powders need to be pre-diluted in water first.
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    Re: new pool this year

    I goofed again. I didn't put the cya in a sock. Now I have cya on the floor of the pool. I am stirring it. What else can I do?
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    Re: new pool this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenrain View Post
    I goofed again. I didn't put the cya in a sock. Now I have cya on the floor of the pool. I am stirring it. What else can I do?
    If you can vacuum it into the filter, that will work. Otherwise, brush it around every hour or so lest you develop freckles on the liner.
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    Re: new pool this year

    Brushing and stirring is helping it dissolve!
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    Don't worry, you're not alone. A couple months back the tube sock I used to hold my stabilizer fell apart and all my stabilizer feel to the floor as well. I was stirring and sweeping like crazy for a while.
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    It is almost dissolved. The levels look good. Ph is still a bit high as is the alkalinity but with all the rain we are having I am not surprised.
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    Re: new pool this year

    My CYA is at 50. I am confused at how much bleach I need to add.
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    Re: new pool this year

    Per the Pool School - Chlorine / CYA Chart, with a CYA of 50, your normal (target) FC would be 6. If you had cloudy/green water and we doing a SLAM, it would be 20. Does that help you?
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    Re: new pool this year

    Six large containers of bleach?
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    Re: new pool this year

    131 oz of bleach.
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