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    Down to these 2 bids in Austin--what do you think?

    I've posted a couple bids before, and you were all really helpful! I'm hoping you can help me out here, because I have two bids, and they are the result of a little haggling on my part. We got one from a PB that did a really really nice design that we love, and one that did an OK design that I think we can tweak a little. I made the 2nd guy give us a quote on similar equipment and specs.

    Bid #1--from a company here in Austin that has so-so reviews, mostly about time management...
    Freeform inground pool
    Perimeter 80’
    Max Width 30’
    Max Length 15’
    Area 368 sqft
    Spa Dimensions 7’
    Spa Height 18” raised
    Pool Depth 3.5-5’

    Hayward TriStar 1.85 HP VS pump
    Hayward SwimClear 425 sqft Cartridge
    Hayward H-Series 400kBTU heater
    *Hayward SWG included in price but not sure which way we’ll go yet—salt or regular chlorine
    Hayward E-Command w/6 function remote
    Robotic Cleaner
    3 Hayward 320 LED lights (2 pool, 1 spa)
    2 pool main drains
    2 spa main drains
    4 returns
    2 skimmers
    $2000 gas line allowance
    Standard 6” waterline tile
    Flagstone coping
    Concrete decking with 460 sqft SprayDeck to include existing patio and level with existing patio
    standard pebble interior
    30ft 1-1.5ft raised pool wall with scupper water feature on separate booster pump

    Total $59860
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    Bid #2 -- this company is a national company and has great reviews locally
    Freeform inground pool
    Perimeter 80’
    Max Width 30’
    Max Length 15’
    Area 368 sqft
    Spa Dimensions 7’
    Spa perimeter 22'
    Spa depth 3.5'
    Spa height 18" raised
    Pool Depth 3-5’
    12271 gallons

    Jandy 2 HP VS pump
    Jandy 1HP booster pump for scupper and bubbler
    Jandy 460 sqft Cartridge
    RayPak 399k BTU heater
    Blower 1.5 HP (what is this??)
    Jandy FusionSoft included in price but not sure which way we’ll go yet—salt or regular chlorine
    Jandy PDA-PS-6 w/6 function remote/Aqualink automation
    Polaris 9450 Robot cleaner
    3 Hayward Color logic LED lights (2 pool, 1 spa)
    2 pool main drains
    3 returns
    1 skimmer--*said combination of pool size and have robot cleaner means only one necessary
    gas line allowance (not specified $ amount)
    Standard 6” waterline tile
    Flagstone coping
    Concrete decking with 460 sqft Kool Kote to include existing patio and level with existing patio
    standard pebble interior
    30 ft raised wall with 7 ft of 1.5ft wall with 24" scupper water feature on separate booster pump
    1 bubbler

    Total $61950

    So the main differences I see is that #1 is cheaper, a Hayward heater and equipment, 2 skimmers. #2 is more expensive, has mostly Jandy stuff, and 1 skimmer. #1 took more time with the design and we liked it better, and really the ONLY thing making me think twice is that their reviews aren't as *glowing* as the other, but that could be because they seek out the positive reviews? It seems that way.
    Here's a photo. Bid 1 on top and Bid 2 on bottom...Bid 2 hadn't added the spa or longer wall in this rendering, but pretty sure it will look very close to #1.

    - - - Updated - - -

    OH and there is a fire pit in both photos but we're not doing that right now...
    Just getting started! Inground freeform gunite pool, 17x32, 3.5-5ft depth, SWCG, French Grey mini pebble Stonescapes, NPT Arctic Lagoon glass tile, raised wall with 3 sheers, Polaris robotic cleaner, Cartridge filter, 550 sqft concrete/Kool-dek; Dig to begin 10/2017!

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    Re: Down to these 2 bids in Austin--what do you think?

    Also the lighting. They're both Hayward, but one is using Hayward Color Logic LED and one specifically says the 320 LED, which are a little smaller? And #1 is accounting for a SWG upgrade, while #2 is not, but I'm not sure what the extra charge would be. At the first meeting they told us $1500 but I'm not sure....
    Just getting started! Inground freeform gunite pool, 17x32, 3.5-5ft depth, SWCG, French Grey mini pebble Stonescapes, NPT Arctic Lagoon glass tile, raised wall with 3 sheers, Polaris robotic cleaner, Cartridge filter, 550 sqft concrete/Kool-dek; Dig to begin 10/2017!

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    Re: Down to these 2 bids in Austin--what do you think?

    Just from what I've read it sounds like you really want to go with PB 1. Perhaps some of our Austinites can PM you and help you out since I believe we are supposed to not name PBs.
    Marla
    No longer living vicariously through other people's pool builds. Pool build is complete on my IG SWCG pool, approx 10,000 gallons. All Jandy equipment - VS 1.5 hp pump, 580 cartridge filter, AquaPure 1400 salt cell, AquaLink PDA system. Dolphin m500. PebbleSheen Blue Surf with shells and beads added. TF-100 w/ SpeedStir. A Houston Pool Build Inside the Loop

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    Re: Down to these 2 bids in Austin--what do you think?

    Thanks!! Yes I am thinking we should use #1 but really I'm torn. Hard decision!


    Just getting started! Inground freeform gunite pool, 17x32, 3.5-5ft depth, SWCG, French Grey mini pebble Stonescapes, NPT Arctic Lagoon glass tile, raised wall with 3 sheers, Polaris robotic cleaner, Cartridge filter, 550 sqft concrete/Kool-dek; Dig to begin 10/2017!

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    Re: Down to these 2 bids in Austin--what do you think?

    Just as a note, if the review issues on PB 1 are mostly with time management as you mention, that would just make it a normal pool build. Not anything especially bad, just a little frustrating. A lot of times it comes down to a gut feel issue. I don't see anything out of line with either bid. How about plumbing setups, pipe size/run layout, etc.
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    Re: Down to these 2 bids in Austin--what do you think?

    Hi,

    We went through a similar process. Make sure to use one bid against the other to get a good price from your preferred pool builder. Don't settle on a PB just because one is a little bit cheaper. Do your best to get your preferred builder in the right price range to make it worth it. IMO you don't want to regret trying to save a little money when you are into a 5 month pool build and dealing with problems over and over not to mention what happens once the build is over? Make sure to speak to other people about the PB's you are considering. We have spoken to many about the two companies you are considering and the comments we received echo'd that of the Yelp reviews...

    Also, make sure you go to the PB's Yelp page and go all the way to the bottom and click on the text that reads like the following:
    XXX other reviews that are not currently recommended
    Then click continue reading other reviews.
    Gunite Phase || 16500 gal FreeForm 33'x18' IG, 89 perim, 491 sq ft. || Blue Surf Pebble Sheen || Pentair Intelliflo VS || Pentail C&C 520 || 2 Pentair Intellibrite 5G
    Previous Pool || 13500 gal. FreeForm 31'x19' IG, 87' perim, 481 sq ft.|| Pebble Sheen || Pentair IntelliFlo VS || Pentair C&C 420 || Pentair Intellibrite 5G

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    Re: Down to these 2 bids in Austin--what do you think?

    UGHHHHH SO SAD! We have decided to postpone the build until the spring. We are paying off bills and hope to become debt free (besides the house!) and in a better position to get everything we want out of a pool.

    What are your experiences with this? Are you more likely to get a better deal in late summer? fall? Winter? I know the proposals will expire that I have...

    OK I'm going cry in a corner now....
    Just getting started! Inground freeform gunite pool, 17x32, 3.5-5ft depth, SWCG, French Grey mini pebble Stonescapes, NPT Arctic Lagoon glass tile, raised wall with 3 sheers, Polaris robotic cleaner, Cartridge filter, 550 sqft concrete/Kool-dek; Dig to begin 10/2017!

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    Re: Down to these 2 bids in Austin--what do you think?

    I have a sad for you BUT am also so proud of you for thinking so far ahead.

    HUGS!

    Kim
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    Re: Down to these 2 bids in Austin--what do you think?

    Since you need to postpone (agree with your reasons!), why not look at doing an owner-build? I had a bid and design done also and postponed a year so I could pay cash and . I started mine in at the end of October and stretched out the build at my own pace and finished at the end of Feb. I was able to get better bids being the "off-season" and never felt rushed since I couldn't swim yet anyway. I built a similar sized pool for less than 30K (though from what I've seen your TX prices will be be higher either way). Good luck and keep the dream alive!
    Owner-Builder, 13,500 IG StoneScapes Mini Pebble (Aqua White), Pentair 160301 Cartridge Filter, Intellichlor IC40, Intelli pH system, Intelliflo VS pump, Startup 2/26/2015

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    Re: Down to these 2 bids in Austin--what do you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by alliecat View Post
    UGHHHHH SO SAD! We have decided to postpone the build until the spring. We are paying off bills and hope to become debt free (besides the house!) and in a better position to get everything we want out of a pool.

    What are your experiences with this? Are you more likely to get a better deal in late summer? fall? Winter? I know the proposals will expire that I have...

    OK I'm going cry in a corner now....
    Hey I had to do the exact same thing! We purchased our house in order to build a pool because our old house really couldn't support a pool so we sold and purchased our new place. Well right after we bought the house our van that was a couple months from being paid off was totaled. We looked and looked for a decent used Honda Odyssey and couldn't find any anywhere. So we ended up buying a new one. We figured we would have to put off the pool for a few years. We really watched what we spent and then the interest rates dropped about a year after the van was totaled and we were able to keep our mortgage payment about the same and roll the pool cost into our mortgage.

    It is ok to wait if it makes sense. I don't think the season will really affect the cost of your pool in Austin. The pool business is so nuts here right now I think they'll just raise their prices until something gives. Just buy when you can afford to and don't really worry about the season. We signed at the beginning of the season and I don't think it helped us much price wise. I do know in 4 years or so the pool costs have gone up at least 20 to 30% here.
    Pool is done! Only took 17 months! - Natural shape in-ground pool: 37x23, 505sq ft, 96ft perimeter, 7ft deep end, 18,950 gallons, tanning ledge, blue surf pebble sheen/luminous blue blend, Belgard coping, 910 sqft paver deck/walkways, retaining walls out the yinyang. Jandy SWG, 2 LED Color lights, VS 2HP Pump, 460sqft cartridge filter, PDA RS P8 controller. My build

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