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    ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    Hi TFP!

    We are in! We signed our contract a week and half ago after meeting with 3 PBs. I studied this forum so I hope the contract scope looks good. By all means, if anyone sees something I should question or think about please let me know. Beyond excited! I never thought we would own a pool. I have 3 kiddos (4, 2, 4 mths).

    We have a small yard, shallow and long. We went with a small, freeform salt water pool- no spa. That's right, salt water in Austin with flagstone coping! All 3 vendors warned against it but after reading the threads on TFP my mind was made up; it is what will work best for my family. There was not any pushback from the PB. I will seal twice a year and rinse off coping at least once a week.

    I debated on a beach entry starting from the patio but decided against it and instead extended the tanning shelf. Thoughts on the look? I wanted to be able to walk right into the pool from the patio.

    Here are the details:

    Pool dimensions: 17'4" x 32'
    Pool Perimeter: 81 ft
    Pool surface area: 337 sqft
    Pool depth: 3.6x5x4

    Steel/Gunite:
    1/2 in steel rebar on 10 in centers, both ways.
    1/2 in steel rebar x4
    12" bond beam, 8-10" walls/floor

    Plumbing/Electrical:
    2 1/2 in 40 PVC
    Returns: 4 directional inlets
    Skimmers: 2 Pentair, individually plumbed
    Drains: 2 (10 in) SDX, VGA compliant
    Cleaner line: 1 independently plumbed

    Stone/Tile:
    Pool tile: 6" band @ waterline
    Pool coping: Flagstone
    Raised beam: 25 ft, faced with flagstone or tile

    Water feature:
    2 bubblers
    3' foot sheer (possibly)

    Decking/Walls:
    3/8" rebar 16"on center, 4" crushed base, 3/8" mastic joint
    4 VB/umbrella sleeves with cap

    Interior:
    Pebble Sheen (color undecided, leaning towards blue granite)
    53 sqft custom tanning shelf
    benches (per plan)
    Start up: complete start-up chemicals for balance and stabilization
    Maintenance: 16' Telescopic pole, vacuum head & hose, brush, net, test kit & thermometer
    Clean up: 1 load of Sandy loam, spread and graded
    Pool school

    Equipment:
    Pump: Pentair IntelliFlo VS-3050 (variable speed)
    Filter: Pentair Clean & Clear 420 cartridge
    Cleaner: KK Racer w/ booster
    Sanitizers: IntelliChlor Salt Chlorinator
    Pool lights: 1 Pentair AmeriLite 500w 120v
    Pool control: Pentair EasyTouch P-4

    Thanks everyone! I will attempt to post pics.Screen Shot 2015-07-30 at 8.57.23 PM.jpgScreen Shot 2015-07-27 at 5.30.54 PM.jpg

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    I would like to be able to see the measurements in the drawing better. Any way to upload a better image? Maybe through photo bucket or some other service? Is there another angle on the rendering? I would like to see your back wall where the sheer is. It is exciting! Now comes the waiting game...
    Gunite Phase || 16500 gal FreeForm 33'x18' IG, 89 perim, 491 sq ft. || Blue Surf Pebble Sheen || Pentair Intelliflo VS || Pentail C&C 520 || 2 Pentair Intellibrite 5G
    Previous Pool || 13500 gal. FreeForm 31'x19' IG, 87' perim, 481 sq ft.|| Pebble Sheen || Pentair IntelliFlo VS || Pentair C&C 420 || Pentair Intellibrite 5G

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    Here are the pics in Photobucket. Also included pictures of the backyard. Thanks!

    Pool Build_2015 by flan_2009 | Photobucket

    <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://s909.photobucket.com/user/flan_2009/embed/slideshow/Pool%20Build_2015"></iframe>

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    Very nice! I like the stone on your house. I notice they aren't including decking, is that a future project or being handled by someone else or just going for a different look?
    Gunite Phase || 16500 gal FreeForm 33'x18' IG, 89 perim, 491 sq ft. || Blue Surf Pebble Sheen || Pentair Intelliflo VS || Pentail C&C 520 || 2 Pentair Intellibrite 5G
    Previous Pool || 13500 gal. FreeForm 31'x19' IG, 87' perim, 481 sq ft.|| Pebble Sheen || Pentair IntelliFlo VS || Pentair C&C 420 || Pentair Intellibrite 5G

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    Thanks! We met the limit for impervious coverage so decking is not an option. Not having that option drove down the cost as well and I like the look. A plus for us.

    I'm thinking of adding decorative pavers around the pool to help with grass/dirt.

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Placement of tanning ledge

    Hi guys! I have a question and was hoping to get some feedback. In the design now, we have the tanning ledge right off the patio but as I sit in my patio I'm wondering if it would make more sense to have the tanning ledge on the opposite side. We will be adding a TV in the patio, the way the tanning ledge is set anyone enjoying the tanning ledge will not be able to view the TV or interact with the person grilling (plan to build outdoor kitchen in patio). Does it matter? Thoughts?

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    Tanning ledges to me have two purposes. A place to lounge and an entry for little ones to get in/out of the pool. Personally I would want it close to the decking you have so your kids don't have to swim to get to it. Otherwise they'll be going over grass to get to it which will get junk in your pool. I wouldn't worry too much about seeing the TV from the tanning ledge.
    Pool is done! Only took 17 months! - Natural shape in-ground pool: 37x23, 505sq ft, 96ft perimeter, 7ft deep end, 18,950 gallons, tanning ledge, blue surf pebble sheen/luminous blue blend, Belgard coping, 910 sqft paver deck/walkways, retaining walls out the yinyang. Jandy SWG, 2 LED Color lights, VS 2HP Pump, 460sqft cartridge filter, PDA RS P8 controller. My build

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    Thanks ummgood! Your build looks awesome, I've been stalking your build for weeks. Can't wait to see it complete as I'm sure you are.

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    I really like the layout you have --- you can turn the chairs around and watch TV from the pool! LOL, what a luxury!!
    My Pool Build (2015): inground 12K gals gunite/plaster pool, SWG, 2-speed pump, cartridge filter, gas heater, and polaris cleaner (Jandy). TF-100 Test Kit w/ Speed Stir

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    Thanks Helen! We are finally moving forward. HOA approved on Thursday, meeting with the construction mgr on Monday. Wahoo!

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    Quote Originally Posted by flan_2009 View Post
    Hi TFP!

    We are in! We signed our contract a week and half ago after meeting with 3 PBs. I studied this forum so I hope the contract scope looks good. By all means, if anyone sees something I should question or think about please let me know. Beyond excited! I never thought we would own a pool. I have 3 kiddos (4, 2, 4 mths).

    We have a small yard, shallow and long. We went with a small, freeform salt water pool- no spa. That's right, salt water in Austin with flagstone coping! All 3 vendors warned against it but after reading the threads on TFP my mind was made up; it is what will work best for my family. There was not any pushback from the PB. I will seal twice a year and rinse off coping at least once a week.

    I debated on a beach entry starting from the patio but decided against it and instead extended the tanning shelf. Thoughts on the look? I wanted to be able to walk right into the pool from the patio.

    Here are the details:

    Pool dimensions: 17'4" x 32'
    Pool Perimeter: 81 ft
    Pool surface area: 337 sqft
    Pool depth: 3.6x5x4

    Steel/Gunite:
    1/2 in steel rebar on 10 in centers, both ways.
    1/2 in steel rebar x4
    12" bond beam, 8-10" walls/floor

    Plumbing/Electrical:
    2 1/2 in 40 PVC
    Returns: 4 directional inlets
    Skimmers: 2 Pentair, individually plumbed
    Drains: 2 (10 in) SDX, VGA compliant
    Cleaner line: 1 independently plumbed

    Stone/Tile:
    Pool tile: 6" band @ waterline
    Pool coping: Flagstone
    Raised beam: 25 ft, faced with flagstone or tile

    Water feature:
    2 bubblers
    3' foot sheer (possibly)

    Decking/Walls:
    3/8" rebar 16"on center, 4" crushed base, 3/8" mastic joint
    4 VB/umbrella sleeves with cap

    Interior:
    Pebble Sheen (color undecided, leaning towards blue granite)
    53 sqft custom tanning shelf
    benches (per plan)
    Start up: complete start-up chemicals for balance and stabilization
    Maintenance: 16' Telescopic pole, vacuum head & hose, brush, net, test kit & thermometer
    Clean up: 1 load of Sandy loam, spread and graded
    Pool school

    Equipment:
    Pump: Pentair IntelliFlo VS-3050 (variable speed)
    Filter: Pentair Clean & Clear 420 cartridge
    Cleaner: KK Racer w/ booster
    Sanitizers: IntelliChlor Salt Chlorinator
    Pool lights: 1 Pentair AmeriLite 500w 120v
    Pool control: Pentair EasyTouch P-4

    Thanks everyone! I will attempt to post pics.Screen Shot 2015-07-30 at 8.57.23 PM.jpgScreen Shot 2015-07-27 at 5.30.54 PM.jpg
    I am about to sign to start construction on a pool in Mesa, AZ. I visited 4 builders and i was originally set on SWCG and travertine decking. All 4 builders advised me not to install any natural stone around a salt water pool. The salt is just too corrosive. Additionally, we have a family friend that has a pool that is 2 years old and I never really paid attention till now, in the places where you get in and out of the pool, the decking is starting to show surface cracking and pitting. Its fine everywhere else, just the high traffic areas. We have decided to go with a standard chlorine with Ozone system.

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    I love the idea of the tanning shelf where it is due to the kids. You can get some nice floating chair and have a way to "anchor" them so people in the pool can watch TV and interact with those on the patio.

    BUT if you could...............have it "grow" so that it is also in the curve to the left of the pool (when looking out the back door) that would work BUT it would take some of your swimming space as well as play space.

    I think I would leave it just like it is.

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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    My pool builder said: "Salt or stone take your pick, but you can't have both". Well, we chose salt. While the PB's quote may be a bit of an overstatement, it is true that softer stone, particularly in a climate without substantial rainfall, can be quickly eroded.

    I love my SWG pool. It is surrounded by a textured acrylic coated deck with a cantilevered edge. No stone anywhere no coping just a deck edge that extends an inch or so beyond the waterline tile. We love the clean look of it and the low maintenance and wonderful soft water feel of a salt pool. Using TFP guidelines and methods it has also been a dream to maintain.
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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    Thanks for the feedback y'all! I read and researched SWG pros/cons and finally just decided to do it. We will be sealing it, hopefully I will have good luck with stone as some of the folks on this forum have.

    Chiefwej, I like your pool. The decking does look nice and clean! We didn't talk about other options, I'll ask the PB.

    Azjoshers, good luck with your build! I will keep an eye on the developments. So exciting! My PB recommended chlorine and UV/Ozone as well but after reading some of the threads here I decided to go with SWG. I hope I don't regret it.

    Kim, that's a great idea about extending the ledge. I'm thinking about putting in a table top like one of the threads I saw (Amanda's, I think). I wonder if I should extend the ledge and have it become a bench. Thinking while I type, I'll talk to the PB tomorrow. Thanks!

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    OH yeah! It was Amanda that did the table with the Texas Star on it! THAT would be purrrrrfect for that area!

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    I definitely recommend a table! Best decision we made. Kids eat there, we got plastic playing cards and sit there and play cards. It's a great addition
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    Re: ATX Pool build - Advice and suggestions welcomed!

    I had a bit more water area to work with. My pool is two rectangles 34x16 and 15x7, overlaping at the corners. The smaller forming the spa and sun deck. I extended the sun deck depth as a bench down the entire length of the pool. For the sun deck and bench mine is at the second step depth (with 16 inches of water over them). It comes to the seat height of a standard pool lounger and is the right size for two of them. We love our bench and sun deck, but with limited swim area you are faced with choices. A table in a pool is very nice, but it does take a lot of space. Compromises everywhere.
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