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    Question Creative idea needed

    Hoping I have posted this is in the right spot.

    I have been trying to work out a way to that I can get around 'empty to waste' and was hoping some one here may be able to help. Some details about why I am trying to do this:

    Our pump died and our pool turned into green Algae heaven. We have recently been able to fix the pump and kill the algae.

    The algae is dead and it has left the pool a cloudy white.

    The pump has been running for 48 hours and there is little difference to the cloudiness. It settles a little and when I vacuum it (very slowly) it just recirculates and comes out the return jets. (I am assuming that as the dead algae is so small the filter is unable to pick it up)

    I have washed the filter and the cartridge is only a few months old. The pressure on the filter is in correct range.

    I am unable to backwash or empty to waste as I have a cartridge filter and there is no option for this.

    Is there any way I can hook something up to my return jet? So when I am vacuuming that I can have something attached to the return jet so the dead algae does not come straight back in the pool? ie some sort of attachment to buy/make? (rather than someone holding a hose against the jet?)

    The testing on the pool is
    CA 60
    FC 9
    Tot c 9
    ph 7.2
    TA 100
    Calcium 260

    Hoping someone here has a creative idea as all I can think of is to empty the entire pool which is not a path we want to go down!
    Suds Malone
    Owner of outdoor inground fibreglass pool with 4 person spa,
    approx 48,000 litres,
    Viron P300 pump
    Hurlcon VX 7T Salt Chlorinator
    Hurlcon ZX 250 Cartridge Filter
    3 flow waterfall feature,
    solar heated

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    Re: Creative idea needed

    you can buy skimmer socks at bunnings (which are like vacuum cleaner bag material)
    but... a cartridge filter is one of the best types for clearing a pool
    so i think you may have a different issue
    does your filter have a recirculate feature, may be set to recirculate
    is the cartridge mounted correctly, does it have any holes in it
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    Re: Creative idea needed

    If your filter is not catching it I suspect you have a problem with your filter elements, but to answer your question yes there are filter bags you can attach to your returns to catch the stuff. One option is a Slime bag The Slime Bag | The Easiest Way To Maintain Crystal Clear Pool Water. also people have found a much cheaper alternative product from Duda Diesel filter bag | Duda Diesel Alternative Energy, Chemicals & Industrial Supply Store for the intended purpose of making biodiesel see this thread SlimeBag for 1/10 of the price, yes you can!! Perhaps you can find something similar locally.
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    Re: Creative idea needed

    Yes have the sock but it goes right through it........ ie after say an hour or 2 of filter running, I check the sock and there is hardly anything at all in it.

    no recirculate feature (I assume it just always does this)

    Yes cartridge is all good, no holes, this is the only time we have had an issue........
    Suds Malone
    Owner of outdoor inground fibreglass pool with 4 person spa,
    approx 48,000 litres,
    Viron P300 pump
    Hurlcon VX 7T Salt Chlorinator
    Hurlcon ZX 250 Cartridge Filter
    3 flow waterfall feature,
    solar heated

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    Re: Creative idea needed

    Isaac thanks for that I'll see what I can find locally.

    I am still hoping I can attach something to the return jet not only for this but for when I need to lower the water level.......
    Suds Malone
    Owner of outdoor inground fibreglass pool with 4 person spa,
    approx 48,000 litres,
    Viron P300 pump
    Hurlcon VX 7T Salt Chlorinator
    Hurlcon ZX 250 Cartridge Filter
    3 flow waterfall feature,
    solar heated

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    Re: Creative idea needed

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    Re: Creative idea needed

    Thanks cowboy for that suggestion
    Suds Malone
    Owner of outdoor inground fibreglass pool with 4 person spa,
    approx 48,000 litres,
    Viron P300 pump
    Hurlcon VX 7T Salt Chlorinator
    Hurlcon ZX 250 Cartridge Filter
    3 flow waterfall feature,
    solar heated

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    Re: Creative idea needed

    The only solution, which would be temporary, would be to add DE to your cartridge filter and that would filter out even the finest of materials You would have to clean the filter several times but this does work and you don't loose the water.

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    Re: Creative idea needed

    Is the sock essentially the same thing as pantyhose?
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    Re: Creative idea needed

    Quote Originally Posted by SudsMalone View Post

    I am unable to backwash or empty to waste
    Drop your vacuum and hose in the pool and make sure it's full of water. Cover the end of the hose and pull it out - siphon.

    Vacuum to "waste".


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    Re: Creative idea needed

    Oh, wait, I'm confused. Do you want to vacuum to waste and don't have a setting, or don't want to lose the water. Hence the "waste"


    Intex 18' x 52" AG with Sand Filter Pump & SWG (Model ECO15110) about 7,600 gallons tested with a K-2006-SALT.

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