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    Not exactly a newbie

    Hi! My pool has not been touched for two winters, last summer & we're just trying to get it up & going this summer. I've had help here before, which was awesome, but it's been a while. My readings are:
    CC- 0
    CYA- 0 I'm assuming, the black dot never went away.
    TA- 100
    CH- 10
    Ph- 8.2 or higher

    Here's pics of the CYA I bought & the bleach. Are they ok? The bleach says concentrated. Does that affect the amounts to be added? Even though CYA is 0, can I start slamming my pool or should I wait?
    We vacuumed to waste to get all the large stuff. There's a little left. I added 2 containers of bleach Tuesaday. That's why it's blue & not green.
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    I'll let someone else weigh in on the hth as I'm not familiar with that product. The bleach is absolutely fine and should say on the side what the concentration is (I'm guessing 8.25%) Just make sure it is new by checking the date code. It should say something like, "2015167" with some other numbers following. The 2015 is the year and the 167 is the day of the year so this would be June 16.
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    You are perfect with those two items/pictures. You know how to add the stabilizer right? Sock near a return jet? Bleach will get used-up quickly until your stabilizer (CYA) starts to build to protect it. Put the sock/stabilizer in now, then try to lower the PH to about 7.2 (with acid) before starting the SLAM. Make sure the water mixes well for 30 min then confirm. After that, you can start to add bleach. The Pool School - Chlorine / CYA Chart will tell you what your "SLAM" FC level should be based on your CYA. You don't have to wait, but again, the bleach will disappear fast to the sun until your stabilizer sets-in. Let us know if you have any more questions.
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Yes, those are fine. Bleach is probably 8.25%, it should say that somewhere. Pool looks pretty good!
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Make sure to read and follow everything noted on the Pool School - SLAM - Shock Level And Maintain page. The key is to "maintain" that FC level. Good luck!
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Thanks for replies!! I added some muriatic acid. Do use the CYA level of 0 to slam right now & when do I retest that & change that number?
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    I would add enough CYA to get to a level of 30 and then go from there. You can add it and use 30 as the number as it won't show up on a test until a week later. Do you know how to use the pool calculator?
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Yes, I've used the pool calculator. Even though I'm adding enough CYA to bring my level to 30, it won't reach that level for however long it takes. I should still use 30 as my CYA level for slamming? Sorry for all the questions. I just want to get it right. Can I retest my ph now & if it's in the correct range, start slamming?
    Thanks for your help!
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Ask all the questions you want! Yes, you should use 30 as the CYA number for your SLAM. You can test 30 minutes after you added the MA to see if your PH is where you want it and then start the SLAM.
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Alright!! Woo hop! I'm going check my ph! I'll keep ya in the loop!
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    My ph was at 7.2. I've added bleach twice so far. Will it clear up & get to the place where it doesn't lose chlorine with the debris in the pool? We've gotten out as much as we can outside the pool. I'll really have to get in to clear the rest out. Also, when everything is like it's supposed to be will water bugs be able to live in the water or will they die? I really hope they die!! Thank you!!
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    You're on the right track. Bugs, reptiles, etc, all react a bit different to pool water and chlorine. Some don't handle it well at all, while others act like it's an all-inclusive vacation. Just depends. Check your skimmer or skimmer sock often and/or use a net to scoop those little critters out.
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Thank you! I sure hope the ones vacationing in my pool don't handle it well at all & I hope their vacation ends so mine can begin! Lol
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Keep up the good work. Just want to make sure you added the CYA and that you are checking on the CL level at least every couple of hours or whenever possible? Also, get as much debris out of the pool as possible. When the pressure in you filter rises 20-25% over clean pressure, you need to back wash.
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Hi thanks for checking back with me! The last time I added last night was 7:00. I added enough to bring my level to 12. I checked it at 9:00 thinking I would add one last time for the night but the FC was still 12. So I didn't add anything. This morning it had dropped to 6.5. I added enough bleach to bring the level back to 12. I'm checking every 2 hrs. Yesterday I checked every hour. I did add the CYA. It's in a sock hanging in the pool. Here's pics I just took. You can the pic from yesterday & compare. Thanks again!

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    I don't know why the pics post upside down & sideways. Lol
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    "I don't know why the pics post upside down & sideways. Lol"

    Amazing how your water stays in the pool like that!
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    Miracles are always happening! ��
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Maybe the pics are upside down to help the algae fall out of the pool quicker?

    Have a nice weekend!
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    If all the algae fell out my pool it would be a great weekend!!

    You have a great weekend too!
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    Re: Not exactly a newbie

    Hi! I just wanted to say thank you!! TFP always works!! Here's three pics of my pool. The beginning, the middle & the end. It's been a week. My water is crystal clear & sparkling. I still have some vacuity do, which I'll be doing tomorrow. I didn't want to clog up my filter & I couldn't backwash for a week cause I added CYA. So I haven't vacuumed, just dipped with a net. Anyway, thanks for all the help!
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