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    Why are my hoses popping off?

    My pool was put together last season and ran wonderfully. I have been running the pump 24/7 for about a week now to kill algae but have run into some problems with hoses popping loose. At first I assumed I just needed to tighten the hose clamp but it would not tighten anymore and it had a little rut so I replaced it. All was well for a few days then a different hose came loose. Again I replaced the hose clamp. Today my son checked all the connections for me to assure they were tight. Tonight I went out to add more bleach and the first hose had come off again pumping water all over the yard again. So this time it was a new clamp and fully tightened, what is causing the problem? My sand filter does not have a pressure gauge but it has been backwashed daily while clearing the pool. I was hoping to pass the OCLT last night but did not. Still have a few little pieces of what I assume is algae that settles on the bottom. This plumbing problem keeps causing set backs in the algae war and I would really like to swim this year
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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    We had to hard plumb our equipment to keep the hoses on. We switched to PVC with valve and unions to stop water from coming out of the pool and to be able to do work on the pump and filter as needed.

    Those hoses will get brittle fast and start leaking and as you have found will come loose for no reason! Save your self a lot of heart ache and trouble and get some PVC, valves, unions. You will love it!

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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    +1 what kimkats said.

    Also replace that gauge....it is an important part of managing your pool water.
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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    My sand filter does not seem to have a place for a gauge I have wanted one from the get-go. I have no idea how to change everything out but am about to learn from you-tube. Any do's and don'ts I need to be aware of?
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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    Dry fit before you glue. It is easy. Measure twice, cut once.

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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    There was probably more than one similar topic here. If you need here and now solution, use dry isopropyl alcohol, wipe inside the hose, outside of the fitting till it is dry, and if you prefer, double clamp. Then if you so desire, plan for PVC etc. In fact I would not go for permanent glued thing, if it is AGP, hoses easily disconnect and can be stored, and so can the pump which makes it live longer. And in some situations rigidity is not your friend.
    Hoses should be changed every three years in my experience, they do get brittle.
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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    If you use unions in the hard plumbing you can easily disconnect the pump and filter from the pool.
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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    True.

    Now here's what I had to do - in an AGP I needed to waste water below skimmer level. With my pump connected by hoses I lifted if on top of the dog house, put the suction hose right in the pool, primed it from a garden hose and it went well (I was not in possession of a longer hose, had to use the one that was there so had to lift the pump). Had it been unionized....would it be as simple?
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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    I just put vacuum head in pool and start siphon. Nothing to disconnect.
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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    Quote Originally Posted by DanielP View Post
    I just put vacuum head in pool and start siphon. Nothing to disconnect.
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    My AGP is hard plumbed with unions and ball valves to isolate the pump and filter. When I need to drain I use the skimmer cuff from my Ranger pool cleaner to plug the vacuum hose into the skimmer hole. It makes an airtight seal and the vacuum head draws off the bottom of the pool so I can pump as low as I need. When I first came to TFP I had to do a couple of 50% drains to bring down the high CYA in my pool. You can buy the skimmer cuff separately.

    Removing a hose now and again is ok, but if you do it often you are more likely to stretch the cuff on the hose which can lead to leaks, blown hoses, and cracked fittings due to over tightening.

    To get back on topic, Spylab could you post a picture of the multiport valve on your filter from all 4 sides? I looked your filter up and it should have a pressure gauge. Maybe the opening for yours is plugged.
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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    Yes. With Doughboy pool the flow rate will be cut in four if you use the port. Yes you can simply connect it to the pump directly (same as I did with mine) and tie a brick to it so it sinks. But the vacuum port adaptor is half the diameter.
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    Re: Why are my hoses popping off?

    Quote Originally Posted by zea3 View Post
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    To get back on topic, Spylab could you post a picture of the multiport valve on your filter from all 4 sides? I looked your filter up and it should have a pressure gauge. Maybe the opening for yours is plugged.
    Sorry I disappeared that happens the week before my next IgG infusion. Here is my filter and I circled where I suspect a gauge could go but it appears to be molded in one piece? I appreciate the plumbing tips. I am thinking of going with flex PVC it is above ground and the plumbing is under my deck. Since I last posted I have not been able to run my system, the pump ran dry and will not start. It was a temporary pump sent while I waited for my 2 speed that I should get installed in the next day or two.... Lucky for me to still have a brand new pump sitting around


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