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    Why Vacuum?

    Is vacuuming important?

    I got a vacuum with my pool, but I've never used it. I've seen lots of posts about how to vacuum, but I haven't seen anything about why I should.

    My current routine is to brush off the steps/seats and let the pentair racer cleaner keep the bottom clean. I have a dark blue plaster/pebble finish so if there is any debris on the bottom, I can't see it.

    My water looks clear, my bottom looks clean, but I see so many people talking about vacuuming that it makes me wonder if I'm missing out on something important.
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    No need to vacuum with a pool cleaner. It is a vacuum substitute!
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    Unless you have a pool full of mud, then all the cleaner does it stir it back up into the water. The vaccum was a godsend for heavy silt clean up. Shut off the pump, let the silt settle over night, then very slowly vacuum.
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    yeah! Say no to mud!
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    I have a vacuum, have used it once...but my pool is in a screen enclosure so I don't really get anything in the pool. I find brushing and skimming every once in a while to get the gnats is enough for me.
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    Quote Originally Posted by robertmee View Post
    Unless you have a pool full of mud, then all the cleaner does it stir it back up into the water?
    I don't understand what you are saying about the cleaner stirring it back up, and I dont want this comment to confuse the OP
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    I vacuum because it's easier than diving down to the bottom with a pair of tweezers.

    And because a manual vacuum works just fine for me so I see no reason to buy anything fancier. Twenty minutes a week isn't so bad. I imagine if I had more leaf load I might want an automatic cleaner.
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yev View Post
    I don't understand what you are saying about the cleaner stirring it back up, and I dont want this comment to confuse the OP
    mud has some very small particles that usually go right through the filters on automatic pool cleaners. and then end up right back in the pool. is that what you mean?
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    Yep. I was nto clear if they meant Vacuum stirs up or cleaner. Wanted to make sure OP was also not confused.
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    I manually vacuum for two reason: 1 - I find it somewhat relaxing and relatively effortless to spend a few minutes getting the debris off the bottom; 2 - because I'm too cheap to spend $$ on a fancy robotic cleaner.
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    I so envy you. I have to vacuum at least twice a week, even more if it is windy or rains a lot. There is nothing more frustrating than spending two hours cleaning the pool and then waking up the next morning and seeing a bunch of leaves (worms and small branches when it storms) in the pool that have already sunk to the bottom.

    I have a bunch of birch trees in the yard that produce a huge amount of tree debris year round, I hate them with a passion.
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    I vacuumed once or twice till my Robot came in, put the vac hose up, and haven't even seen it in over a year now. If things go as I want them too, I'll never vac again if I can help it at all. Pool cleaners RULE!
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    Newbie here. I assume from the posts that a cleaner and vacuum are two distinct things. I've been using them interchangeably. Thanks to TFP, I recognize that I have a kreepy krawly - is that a cleaner or vaccum?
    Roman in ground pool (16 x34, 20,400 gallons), cleaned professional every Tuesday, with a leaf skimmer, suction cleaner connected to skimmer via hose and brush. Pool pump is currently set for 6am-1pm daily. Pool is filled with a water hose two times/week for about 40 minutes (my understanding is filling pool isn't under restrictions by my city).

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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    for most discussions it would be a cleaner. it does the work (vacuuming) for you.
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    I got this answer from Chem Geek on a similar questions in the introduce yourself section:

    "Vacuuming is not a regular maintenance step unless you are accumulating debris that your pool sweep isn't picking up. What IS a normal maintenance step is brushing the pool. This helps dislodge any algae in the nooks and crannies of plaster and prevents biofilm formation. Circulation flow goes to zero at pool walls and floors and in particular the rougher surface of plaster has plenty of spaces where algae can hide out from chlorine in the water. Brushing forces chlorine into those surfaces and also physically disrupts anything stuck to that plaster."

    Seems like that would be good advice for anyone looking through this thread.

    Thanks everyone for all the helpful information!
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    On the cleaner question in regards to mud....yes the cleaner just sends the fine particulate right back into the pool...also my particular dolphin has a large scrubber before the vacuum so that also contributes to dispersion of mud before the dolphins vacuum can grab it. Slow manual vacuum to waste has been the only way to clear my pool. I've had three mudslides in three weeks so I'm unfortunately an expert on this now.
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    I put a skimmer sock in my Polaris leaf bag, and now it vacuums everything better than I used to.
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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Defgufman View Post
    I put a skimmer sock in my Polaris leaf bag, and now it vacuums everything better than I used to.
    Would you mind posting a picture of how you did that? We have sandy soil and that might help me out.


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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pogueld View Post
    Would you mind posting a picture of how you did that? We have sandy soil and that might help me out.


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    Re: Why Vacuum?

    Thank you!!!


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